Did NATO cause the war in Ukraine?

ExpressLane said:
No one is afraid of Russia's conventional army any more.. They have shown themselves to be inept. They can't project themselves much farther than rail lines go and rail lines are easy targets. They still have not achieved air superiority over Ukraine. If Putin decides to use nukes he will shortly there after die. One Polaris armed sub could take out every major city in Russia. If Russia nuked the US it would piss the sub commanders off and they would certainly launch missiles. I doubt Putin or his Generals will risk mutual destruction .
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Russia cant go up against Javelin - no armor in the world can
Their AF has MANPADS, S-300, and Buk-M1 surface-to-air missile system
Also we sent them Stingers.. it's not Russian inferior weapons.it's the top quality weapons we sent in our war against russia
 
anatta said:
Russia cant go up against Javelin - no armor in the world can
Their AF has MANPADS, S-300, and Buk-M1 surface-to-air missile system
Also we sent them Stingers.. it's not Russian inferior weapons.it's the top quality weapons we sent in our war against russia
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The American elites adore war.

America is too irresponsible to be allowed to retain global power China argues, apparently with the increasing support of India.
 
archives said:
You don’t really think we have seen the full force of the Russian military do you? Just as we didn’t go into Afghanistan with all we have neither will Russia do the same in the Ukraine, apparently, as embarrassing as it has been for them, they are sticking to a limited action. There is still much to fear from Russia

And Russia has those same nuclear subs floating in international waters
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i'd be more wary of a cruise battlefield nuke then a strategic attack.
Neithr is likely of course, but wars take funny bounces
 
BartenderElite said:
Why shouldn't a free and independent nation ally with whoever they want to ally with?

You're implying we should discourage that, just to appease a lunatic.
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Im not implying anything
NATO doesnt have to let in every 2 bit wanna be -mostly at the egging on of the USA
 
anatta said:
Im not implying anything
NATO doesnt have to let in every 2 bit wanna be -mostly at the egging on of the USA
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They don't "have" to. But can you give a legit reason they wouldn't let in countries like Finland or the Ukraine, aside from just not wanting to make Putin mad?
 
ExpressLane said:
NATO didn't start the war. Putin started the war and used NATO and de Nazification as an excuse both are lies. The truth is Putin wants the old USSR band back together because the leader of the USSR was much more powerful than the leader of Russia is.
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Annata may be more than just a diehard Trump supporter and NATO hater, he may well be a Russian Bot.

Many JPP contributors have accused him of this in the past!

HE IS PRO-Putin/Pro-RUSSIA!
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Annata may be more than just a diehard Trump supporter and NATO hater, he may well be a Russian Bot.

Many JPP contributors have accused him of this in the past!

HE IS PRO-Putin/Pro-RUSSIA!
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You appear pro-Ukraine , pro-Zelensky to me- but I don't make a fuss.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Yes, I admire Free Sovereign countries that want to be free bad enough to want to fight for their freedom and existence- like the Ukraine- and the USA!
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Also like Ukraine's breakaway regions, Lugansk and Donetsk- people who objected to their democratic vote being overturned in a US-led coup.

Maybe you think that US-led coups are OK ? ' Freedom ' and ' Sovereignty ' should take second place to US interests ?
 
moon said:
Also like Ukraine's breakaway regions, Lugansk and Donetsk- people who objected to their democratic vote being overturned in a US-led coup.

Maybe you think that US-led coups are OK ? ' Freedom ' and ' Sovereignty ' should take second place to US interests ?
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You are starting to get eccentric again!

Did the USA not approve of your Visa?
 
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