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[BattleofHodow]

no they aren't. Monopolies don't offer better products the lobby the government to create red tape to discourage competition. That is why it's corporatism not capitalism
those aren't monopolies. you can go to Target you can go to any host of other stores besides Walmart. You can buy things from other places besides Amazon.

you need to educate yourself on the meaning of words if you're going to use them.

Things that are monopolies are the power company.

Those aren't monopolies. Again you can Target you can go to the Payless you can go to Marshalls you can go to Kmart there's all sorts of other businesses that compete with Walmart.

Where you can buy things from all over the internet not just Amazon.

Learn with a monopoly is before you start talking about them

Amazon especially is very close to a Monopoly & so is Walmart very close to being one.

They both cut out a lot of competitors, and take over sizeable portions of the market.

Of course, this is natural & isn't good for the economy, either.

 

[Hawkeye10]

A lot of Capitalist businesses are scumbags, no lie there.

They are the ones hiring Undocumented Immigrants & Outsourcing in mass.

"And people are with varying degrees of resistance starting to realize all of these organizations hate you too, and they hate you just as much as the corporations that you used to worship under the false label of the free market....FBI corrupt, CIA corrupt, State Department corrupt....all of these organizations are corrupt and hate you even more than any foreign adversary hates you".

Beattie

 

[BattleofHodow]

but they are still stealing labor from the slave. They aren't trading something of value for something of value.

they aren't fulfilling you thought primary component of capitalism

you cannot support capitalism if you hold slaves because you are stealing something of value without paying for it the labor of the slaves.

They bought those slaves & used them for mega profits.

Besides, they did in fact pay them in forms of shelter & food.

Arguably slaves were better fed than a lot of the peasantry in Europe.

 

[Arks&sparka]

Amazon especially is very close to a Monopoly & so is Walmart very close to being one.

not even close in any universe. I can go to home Depot I can go to Walgreens I can go to Target I can go to H-E-B I can go to Kroger I can go to CVS. And literally thousands of other places that aren't Walmart. A monopoly means you can go to one place. in what world is thousands maybe millions of different places the same thing is only one place?

They both cut out a lot of competitors, and take over sizeable portions of the market.

no they don't cut out a lot of competitors the competitors cut themselves out by not competing.

Of course, this is natural & isn't good for the economy, either.

What you are describing is meritocracy, when someone chooses to buy from Walmart versus someone else. Or someone else versus Walmart this can only happen if there is not monopolies.

 

[Arks&sparka]

They bought those slaves & used them for mega profits.

but they are stealing the labor of the slaves if you steal something without paying for it that is not capitalism.

Besides, they did in fact pay them in forms of shelter & food.

so you're suggesting there's no such thing as slavery? If you play your slaves in the form of food and shelter then you're paying than therefore they aren't slaves.

 

[BattleofHodow]

not even close in any universe. I can go to home Depot I can go to Walgreens I can go to Target I can go to H-E-B I can go to Kroger I can go to CVS. And literally thousands of other places that aren't Walmart. A monopoly means you can go to one place. in what world is thousands maybe millions of different places the same thing is only one place?
no they don't cut out a lot of competitors the competitors cut themselves out by not competing.

What you are describing is meritocracy, when someone chooses to buy from Walmart versus someone else. Or someone else versus Walmart this can only happen if there is not monopolies.

Amazon & Walmart fit 3 of these Monopoly categories.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/...any and its product,total control of a market.

What's a Monopoly?

Understanding Monopolies
Monopolies typically have an unfair advantage over their competition since they are either the only provider of a product or control most of the market share or customers for their product. Although monopolies might differ from industry-to-industry, they tend to share similar characteristics that include:


High or no barriers to entry: Competitors are not able to enter the market, and the monopoly can easily prevent competition from developing their foothold in an industry by acquiring the competition.
Single seller: There is only one seller in the market, meaning the company becomes the same as the industry it serves.
Price maker: The company that operates the monopoly decides the price of the product that it will sell without any competition keeping their prices in check. As a result, monopolies can raise prices at will.
Economies of scale: A monopoly often can produce at a lower cost than smaller companies. Monopolies can buy huge quantities of inventory, for example, usually a volume discount. As a result, a monopoly can lower its prices so much that smaller competitors can't survive. Essentially, monopolies can engage in price wars due to their scale of their manufacturing and distribution networks such as warehousing and shipping, that can be done at lower costs than any of the competitors in the industry.

 

[Into the Night]

No they aren't corporate monopolies are natural to corporatism.

Not true. Monopolies are self destructive. They become lazy and can't maneuver in the marketplace very well. All it takes is for some little company to come along and shoot it's kneecaps off.

Examples:
IBM was a monopoly in the computer industry. Destroyed by the creation of the minicomputer, and later the microcomputer. IBM is still around, of course, but they are a bit player now.
Ford was a monopoly in the automotive industry. Then came along General Motors, Chrystler, and later the Japanese and European cars that blew their automotive doors off.
Amazon was a monopoly the in cloud services business. Now there is Google, Microsoft, and a whole host of others getting into the act (I still think Amazon's is the best one out there though!).
Oh, and it wasn't till the Alexa devices and services came along that Google didn't start making one of their own, called Google Home (it sucks to write software for it!).
Remember Blackberry cellphones having the majority of the market? Where are they now? Now we have Android, Microsoft, Apple, and Pine (linux) phones available.

A monopoly can only stay a monopoly with government intervention, such as case with DuPont and the R-12/R-134A fiasco (and the completely manufactured Ozone Hole 'crisis'.
Take that protection away, and R-12 refrigerant will become dirt cheap. DuPont no longer has the patents on it. They've expired. It doesn't destroy the ozone layer.

There are monopolies for Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, etc. Due to their filtering and politics, there are now alternative versions of these services becoming available. They are also losing their Section 230 protections, thanks to Trump.

That's the problem with being the fastest gun. Some kid will always come along someday and shoot your kneecaps off.

 

[BattleofHodow]

but they are stealing the labor of the slaves if you steal something without paying for it that is not capitalism.
so you're suggesting there's no such thing as slavery? If you play your slaves in the form of food and shelter then you're paying than therefore they aren't slaves.

They did pay for it through purchasing slaves & paying for their food & housing.

 

[Into the Night]

They bought the slaves from Black African slave traders who gave them up for sale due to being POW's

A Capitalist is someone who either supports Capitalism, or who invests Capital for profit.

In both cases, this fits like a T with the slavery in the United States.

Theft is not capitalism dude.

 

[Arks&sparka]

Amazon & Walmart fit 3 of these Monopoly categories.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/...any and its product,total control of a market.

What's a Monopoly?

Understanding Monopolies
Monopolies typically have an unfair advantage over their competition since they are either the only provider of a product or control most of the market share or customers for their product. Although monopolies might differ from industry-to-industry, they tend to share similar characteristics that include:


High or no barriers to entry: Competitors are not able to enter the market, and the monopoly can easily prevent competition from developing their foothold in an industry by acquiring the competition.
Single seller: There is only one seller in the market, meaning the company becomes the same as the industry it serves.
Price maker: The company that operates the monopoly decides the price of the product that it will sell without any competition keeping their prices in check. As a result, monopolies can raise prices at will.
Economies of scale: A monopoly often can produce at a lower cost than smaller companies. Monopolies can buy huge quantities of inventory, for example, usually a volume discount. As a result, a monopoly can lower its prices so much that smaller competitors can't survive. Essentially, monopolies can engage in price wars due to their scale of their manufacturing and distribution networks such as warehousing and shipping, that can be done at lower costs than any of the competitors in the industry.

So according to this anyone who makes a superior product is a monopoly? Barrier to entry into a market is whether or not you have something of value to trade if there are no barriers there is no capitalism.

 

[Arks&sparka]

They did pay for it through purchasing slaves & paying for their food & housing.

So you were arguing that there's no such thing as slavery as long as they were fed and sheltered.

 

[Into the Night]

Monopolies are natural because some businesses offer better products, or cheaper products.

So, Walmart or Amazon came about because of government intervention?

That's truly absurd, it's a natural part of Capitalism.

Walmart offered cheaper products, and so did Amazon.

That's why, nothing to do with the government intervention.

Walmart is not a monopoly. Neither is Amazon.
Both are retailers. Both succeeded because they could offer a large inventory at low prices.

But I guess that's now what you want.

 

[Into the Night]

Amazon & Walmart fit 3 of these Monopoly categories.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/...any and its product,total control of a market.

What's a Monopoly?

Understanding Monopolies
Monopolies typically have an unfair advantage over their competition since they are either the only provider of a product or control most of the market share or customers for their product. Although monopolies might differ from industry-to-industry, they tend to share similar characteristics that include:


High or no barriers to entry: Competitors are not able to enter the market, and the monopoly can easily prevent competition from developing their foothold in an industry by acquiring the competition.
Single seller: There is only one seller in the market, meaning the company becomes the same as the industry it serves.
Price maker: The company that operates the monopoly decides the price of the product that it will sell without any competition keeping their prices in check. As a result, monopolies can raise prices at will.
Economies of scale: A monopoly often can produce at a lower cost than smaller companies. Monopolies can buy huge quantities of inventory, for example, usually a volume discount. As a result, a monopoly can lower its prices so much that smaller competitors can't survive. Essentially, monopolies can engage in price wars due to their scale of their manufacturing and distribution networks such as warehousing and shipping, that can be done at lower costs than any of the competitors in the industry.

Did you forget about Target? Best buy? Home Depot? Lowes? Microsoft Azure cloud services? Google?

Put down the bong, dude. You're hallucinating.

 

[Into the Night]

They did pay for it through purchasing slaves & paying for their food & housing.

Theft is not capitalism, dude.

 

[Arks&sparka]

Not true. Monopolies are self destructive. They become lazy and can't maneuver in the marketplace very well. All it takes is for some little company to come along and shoot it's kneecaps off.

Examples:
IBM was a monopoly in the computer industry. Destroyed by the creation of the minicomputer, and later the microcomputer. IBM is still around, of course, but they are a bit player now.
Ford was a monopoly in the automotive industry. Then came along General Motors, Chrystler, and later the Japanese and European cars that blew their automotive doors off.
Amazon was a monopoly the in cloud services business. Now there is Google, Microsoft, and a whole host of others getting into the act (I still think Amazon's is the best one out there though!).
Oh, and it wasn't till the Alexa devices and services came along that Google didn't start making one of their own, called Google Home (it sucks to write software for it!).
Remember Blackberry cellphones having the majority of the market? Where are they now? Now we have Android, Microsoft, Apple, and Pine (linux) phones available.

A monopoly can only stay a monopoly with government intervention, such as case with DuPont and the R-12/R-134A fiasco (and the completely manufactured Ozone Hole 'crisis'.
Take that protection away, and R-12 refrigerant will become dirt cheap. DuPont no longer has the patents on it. They've expired. It doesn't destroy the ozone layer.

There are monopolies for Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, etc. Due to their filtering and politics, there are now alternative versions of these services becoming available. They are also losing their Section 230 protections, thanks to Trump.

That's the problem with being the fastest gun. Some kid will always come along someday and shoot your kneecaps off.

They can only be self destructive in a mostly capitalist economy with a meritocratic market.

 

[BattleofHodow]

So you were arguing that there's no such thing as slavery as long as they were fed and sheltered.

America has always been more Capitalist than other countries.

So, you're argument is there has never been a Capitalist society.

Truth is 95% of criterias were met for Capitalism in the USA in early America, or America today.

So, I guess the 5% disqualifies it, huh?

I guess free market Capitalism is so inferior, nobody wants it.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Walmart is not a monopoly. Neither is Amazon.
Both are retailers. Both succeeded because they could offer a large inventory at low prices.

But I guess that's now what you want.

I dont want any organization to have as much power as they have, because I am not stupid.

Amazon absolutely needs to be busted up.

 

[Arks&sparka]

America has always been more Capitalist than other countries.

So, you're argument is there has never been a Capitalist society.

Truth is 95% of criterias were met for Capitalism in the USA in early America, or America today.

So, I guess the 5% disqualifies it, huh?

I guess free market Capitalism is so inferior, nobody wants it.

Almost capitalism isn't capitalism.

 

[BattleofHodow]

Theft is not capitalism, dude.

Capitalists like all societieis have lead to theft.

The USA Founding Fathers supported theft of America away from Brits, Native Americans, in Black slaves.

I guess the Founding Fathers weren't Capitalists, huh??

I guess nobody's ever been Capitalist, by your logic.

 

[BattleofHodow]

Almost capitalism isn't capitalism.

So, nobody wants Capitalism, because it's such an inferior system, right?