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Arks&sparka said:
So you say. Shrug
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He's right. You haven't read a single word of Karl Marx. Here. Let me direct you to copies of his works. You can find them at https://politiplex.freeforums.net/board/13/communist-manifesto.
You will also find there a copy of the Constitution of the United States, information on economics, various theories of science that debunk your belief in the Church of Global Warming, and links to various news articles that debunk your beliefs about Trump. This is also a politically oriented blind forum, like this one. Feel free to post there.
 
Into the Night said:
Nope. Slavery is not capitalism. Theft of wealth is not capitalism. Capitalism creates wealth, it doesn't steal it.

There is no such thing as elitism in capitalism. Everyone gets to play.

kidnapping is not luring.

They actually did quite poorly. The price of their evil.

Capitalism creates wealth literally out of nothing. All it takes is innovation and drive. A most recent example is the creation of the personal computer industry, the web, and cloud based services out of nothing...now a multi-hundred billion dollar industry.
And it gave us the personal computer. You know, that thing you are typing on right now.

The creation of the entire automobile industry is another example. No more carts and horses pooping in our cities! (We have homeless to do that now! :D)

Apparently you are completely illiterate in economics as well. Another sad example of not thinking for yourself, and listening to drivel from the liberal media and the Democrats.
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Slavery was a deregulated Capitalist freedom for Capitalist farmers, Capitalist textile factories & Capitalist financiers who funded it.

Nothing was non-Capitalist about it.
 
Arks&sparka said:
No that's not how it works prove your claim correct.
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There is no proof possible here. Proofs only exist in closed functional systems like mathematics or logic.
I have given him a link to the subject material in question. He can continue to make illiterate comments like he does about Marx, or he can actually choose to go read up on his works.

My guess is that he will simply remain illiterate and spew the same old Democrat talking points verbatim. He has no mind of his own.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
The KKK was anti-Union, even so much so they even sometimes attacked labor Unions with violence.

https://www.pbs.org/harrymoore/terror/k.html

Although Florida Klansmen continued to terrorize African Americans, they expanded their targets to include union organizers, particularly in the citrus belt from Orlando to Tampa. One of the most notorious Klan incidents in Florida history occurred in Tampa in 1937, when labor organizer Joseph Shoemaker was flogged, castrated, and tarred and feathered. Shoemaker eventually died from his injuries. Ironically, one of nine Klansmen indicted for the murder (although they were all freed) was Edward Spivey, from Orange County, who would later play a role in the 1978 re-investigation of Harry Moore's murder.
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The KKK is a violent faction of the Democrat Party, funded and supported by Democrats. Labor Unions are not socialism (though they can be). I have already answered this question for you. RQAA.
 
Arks&sparka said:
Ironic. you begin trolling me telling me I don't know anything and then demanding me show you what I know.

You never argued anyting. What you said amounted to nuh uh.

Perhaps you are projecting
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Excellent call. That's exactly what he's doing. This is also known as an inversion fallacy.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Slavery was a deregulated Capitalist freedom for Capitalist farmers, Capitalist textile factories & Capitalist financiers who funded it.

Nothing was non-Capitalist about it.
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Nope. Slavery is not capitalism. Theft of wealth is not capitalism. Capitalism creates wealth, it doesn't steal it.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Can Cattle on Capitalist farms today buy themself?
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Cattle are animals, not slaves. They are raised for their meat and slaughtered. Yes...that is capitalism. It is creating wealth by buying and raising cattle, on a ranch (not a farm) specifically set up for this purpose, and the the meat sold for consumption or reprocessing into other products.
All from calves, grass, water, and a lot of work.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
So, I guess the early USA wasn't Capitalist, huh?
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no and it isn't now.
Slavery was definitely Capitalism, it was all about profits for the Capitalist elite.
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Capitalism isn't all about the prophets for the capitalist elite that's corporatism. Capitalism is trading things of value for things of value. If a slave trade is leeper or something of value that would mean he's not a slave. If a person steals his labor that isn't capitalism.
 
Arks&sparka said:
no cattle don't have the concept of money or value or ownership. Slaves do unless you think slaves are as intelligent as cattle.
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Slavery existed in a Capitalist system, to make mega profits for the Capitalist elites.

Explain how slavery in early America wasn't an integral part of Capitalism?
 
Arks&sparka said:
no and it isn't now.

Capitalism isn't all about the prophets for the capitalist elite that's corporatism. Capitalism is trading things of value for things of value. If a slave trade is leeper or something of value that would mean he's not a slave. If a person steals his labor that isn't capitalism.
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Capitalism leads to corporate power, anyways.
 
Into the Night said:
There is no proof possible here. Proofs only exist in closed functional systems like mathematics or logic.
I have given him a link to the subject material in question. He can continue to make illiterate comments like he does about Marx, or he can actually choose to go read up on his works.

My guess is that he will simply remain illiterate and spew the same old Democrat talking points verbatim. He has no mind of his own.
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Forgive me I should have said support your claim.
 
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