Deep-Level Post Election Analysis and Myth Addressing by yours truly

Thing1 said:
And where did they win? Oh, yeah - Alabama. The deepest of red.

Want my advice? Ditch Bannon - and make sure your candidates distance themselves from Trump. Localize the elections and it may not be an epic landslide for Dems.
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Should they distance themselves from Trump’s economic policies? Embrace climate change? Go back to open borders?

Or do you mean ddistance themselves from his Twitter account lol?
 
Darth Omar said:
Should they distance themselves from Trump’s economic policies? Embrace climate change? Go back to open borders?

Or do you mean ddistance themselves from his Twitter account lol?
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Open borders? Who has suggested that this year?

"Embrace climate change?" Do you mean support reasonable measures to protect the environment? Yeah - probably.

What are Trump's economic policies? Trickle-down? He hasn't even gotten that to pass yet. I probably wouldn't recommend it, but have at it...
 
noise said:
lots of blame on DC establishment. McConnel for backing Strange,instead of some other guy..
Republican politics are disastrous. I'm sure they'll find a way to loose the Senate -as difficult as it is.

Tax Reform has to get done this year - Jones doesn't get seated till next year
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Loose lips sinks ships and they also lose elections!


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Imperator said:
I know you guys better than you know yourselves, I anticipate your talking points and I will prove them wrong before you even open your mouths

I will be using exit polling data from the washingtonpost to assist me in my deep level analysis.
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/alabama-exit-polls/?utm_term=.b9b80683f111)

Myth 1 - This election was a referendum on Trump.

Incorrect. See this image:

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According to the voters of this Alabama election, 51% said that trump had no bearing on their vote at all. 19% of jones voters said they voted in part due to anti-trump sentiment. 27% of Roy Moore voters said they voted out of support for trump. Overall, trump played very little role in this election, but to the extent that he did, it is clearly evident that it ended up in a net support of +8pts for Roy Moore. This is also relevant to Bannon. The GOPe is already trying to blame him, but given his strong ties to trump, again it should be patently evident that the Bannon/Trump coalition if anything helped Moore close the gap. Without trumps help, Moore likely would have lost by more points.

Myth 2 - This is a a win for the #Metoo pussyhatters

Again, according to the Washington Post exit poll data, voters declared:



To be fair, you did grab some of the electorate, but overall the majority of the electorate rejected your premise.


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Polling aside, the glaring error in your claim that this 'wasn't about trump' is that trump spent millions in taxpayer money to give that Klan rally in Fla. He stumped for Moore, and failed miserably.

So...it shows that trump was impotent to rally his base enough to get Moore...a fellow child rapist/attempted rapist...into Congress.
 
Althea said:
Polling aside, the glaring error in your claim that this 'wasn't about trump' is that trump spent millions in taxpayer money to give that Klan rally in Fla. He stumped for Moore, and failed miserably.

So...it shows that trump was impotent to rally his base enough to get Moore...a fellow child rapist/attempted rapist...into Congress.
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childish rant about fellow child"rapists". The market was saturated with Dems and Trump.
Obama did robo-calls; Booker showed up.

You had WAPO claims that were never really answered by Moore - start there.
 
Althea said:
Polling aside, the glaring error in your claim that this 'wasn't about trump' is that trump spent millions in taxpayer money to give that Klan rally in Fla. He stumped for Moore, and failed miserably.

So...it shows that trump was impotent to rally his base enough to get Moore...a fellow child rapist/attempted rapist...into Congress.
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There’s a logical error in this and it’s a glaring one.

The candidate who wasn’t subjected to a negative 24/7 media blitz, won. Had both of them been subjected to the same thing you would have an argument.

The race was a referendum on Moore, kind of period.
 
Darth Omar said:
There’s a logical error in this and it’s a glaring one.

The candidate who wasn’t subjected to a negative 24/7 media blitz, won. Had both of them been subjected to the same thing you would have an argument.

The race was a referendum on Moore, kind of period.
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Occam's razor
 
Covfefe said:
Why, if he was a bad candidate, they rejected Strange, why did they do that? Trump supported Strange, Bannon supported Moore, why did primary voters pick Moore if he was a bad candidate and the allegations or Trump had no influence?
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anger with establishment Republicans who didn't throw out Obamacare......
 
Covfefe said:
Senators starting to object to tax bill. It’s not a done deal, yet. It’s going to be tight and Senators better look at the polls, people hate this tax bill.
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only lib'ruls who buy into the lies about it hate it......obviously they aren't going to support Republicans anyway......
 
Fox exit polling showed 70% of voters said the allegations of sexual impropriety figured largely in their decision.......demmycrats have a sure fire strategy.......
 
Darth Omar said:
There’s a logical error in this and it’s a glaring one.

The candidate who wasn’t subjected to a negative 24/7 media blitz, won. Had both of them been subjected to the same thing you would have an argument.

The race was a referendum on Moore, kind of period.
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I agree it was a referendum on Moore. He never should have been a candidate, based on his record from the bench.

But the claim on the table is that it wasn't a referendum on trump. When trump goes all in for Moore, and Jones wins, that's a referendum on trump's impotence in cases like these.

And it cost taxpayers millions of dollars.
 
Thing1 said:
There is a fair amount of wishful thinking on this thread.

Once again, the biggest factor yesterday was turnout. Turnout = enthusiasm.
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Same in Virginia, due to redistricting. It's going to take massive Dem. turnout, just go squeak by in these elections. But the Dem ground game is strong after the anomaly last November.
 
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