Deep-Level Post Election Analysis and Myth Addressing by yours truly

Superfreak said:
LMAO... how is it a strawman? You actually going to sit here and tell us the Dems don't constantly talk about wealth redistribution?
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What do you call it when middle class paychecks purchase goods from companies that send the money overseas for labor? Wealth is distributed in a capitalist economy. The question is, where is it going?

Our economy used to be a circle, with the wealthy at the top, and the low income on the bottom. Middle class at 3 and 9 o'clock.

Everyone touched the money, and it always circled back to the top.

Now it's linear, with the money going from the bottom to the top, never to be seen again.
 
Yaya said:
Why didn't they come out in his previous election?
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No one ever asked before was the reply of one women, which further proves these women were telling the truth.
They told people, but it was local news, no national reporters had ever come to town before, running for Senate threw Moore into the national spotlight. A reporter decided to follow the local rumors about Moore, she found these women and the rest is history.
 
Covfefe said:
No one ever asked before was the reply of one women, which further proves these women were telling the truth.
They told people, but it was local news, no national reporters had ever come to town before, running for Senate threw Moore into the national spotlight. A reporter decided to follow the local rumors about Moore, she found these women and the rest is history.
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Not to mention that children were easily intimidated by someone in the Prosecutor's office.
 
Althea said:
What do you call it when middle class paychecks purchase goods from companies that send the money overseas for labor? Wealth is distributed in a capitalist economy. The question is, where is it going?

Our economy used to be a circle, with the wealthy at the top, and the low income on the bottom. Middle class at 3 and 9 o'clock.

Everyone touched the money, and it always circled back to the top.

Now it's linear, with the money going from the bottom to the top, never to be seen again.
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That makes little sense. If a middle class person purchases a good/service, then that is not redistribution. That is an exchange of something of value for the currency that it is worth. The middle class person in your example gets the good/service.

Money still circulates through the system. It is impossible for it to disappear as you suggest. If it did, then the companies would not have the ability to pay their employees. The employees exchange their time/effort in exchange for income/benefits. They then take that income/benefits and in turn purchase goods/services, put it in savings or invest. Obviously those that live paycheck to paycheck are not typically doing the latter two.

Redistribution, as I was discussing, is when you take money from someone and don't give them something of value in return. Instead you take the money and give it to someone else who didn't earn that money.
 
Superfreak said:
That makes little sense. If a middle class person purchases a good/service, then that is not redistribution. That is an exchange of something of value for the currency that it is worth. The middle class person in your example gets the good/service.

Money still circulates through the system. It is impossible for it to disappear as you suggest. If it did, then the companies would not have the ability to pay their employees. The employees exchange their time/effort in exchange for income/benefits. They then take that income/benefits and in turn purchase goods/services, put it in savings or invest. Obviously those that live paycheck to paycheck are not typically doing the latter two.

Redistribution, as I was discussing, is when you take money from someone and don't give them something of value in return. Instead you take the money and give it to someone else who didn't earn that money.
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Redistribution is when the company takes the money that you reference, and pays employees in another country. That money is gone from this country forever.

Likewise for money spent on Chinese steel for trump's shitty buildings. Or money lost when companies ship materials to China, and have finished product shipped back here.

Redistribution.

What you classify as 'taking', is nothing more than the cost for living in the safest, most sought after society in the world. No different than the dues you pay to hang out at Mar A Lago. You really get nothing of value in return, but you spend the money anyway.
 
Althea said:
Redistribution is when the company takes the money that you reference, and pays employees in another country. That money is gone from this country forever.

Likewise for money spent on Chinese steel for trump's shitty buildings. Or money lost when companies ship materials to China, and have finished product shipped back here.

Redistribution.

What you classify as 'taking', is nothing more than the cost for living in the safest, most sought after society in the world. No different than the dues you pay to hang out at Mara Lago. You really get nothing of value in return, but you spend the money anyway.
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No, that is not redistribution. An item or service of value was exchanged.

Again, your example is incorrect. If you pay dues to a club, you in turn get the opportunity to enjoy the benefits of said club.
 
Imperator said:
thing1 isn't wrong about 2018, the democrats could very easily win back the house (and have an outsie chance at the senate) the problem is the way he arrives at the conclusion is by falling down the stairs. This has been my criticism of him and other liberals since 2016, they lack the ability to think critically about these things. While democrats may very well do good in 2018, that is more or less independent from last nights results.
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Bu bu bullshit!
 
Imperator said:
again, the data that you want to ignore suggests this is not the case. only 19% of voters voted for jones out of anti-trump sentiment. Conversly 27% of moore voters voted out of pro-trump sentiment, giving trump an overall net effect of +8pts for roy moore in this race. Again, to reiterate, the vast majority of jones voters were NOT voting out of anti trump sentiment. You have no data to back this up. I have actual data, you have your woo woo bullshit and feels. get on my level.
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No. You have exit polls. You can dig up the '16 polls that said Clinton would win if you like, and we can debate them. Your polls do nothing to address the low republican voter turnout.
 
Superfreak said:
No, that is not redistribution. An item or service of value was exchanged.

Again, your example is incorrect. If you pay dues to a club, you in turn get the opportunity to enjoy the benefits of said club.
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And that's exactly what taxation is. Glad we can agree.
 
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