Conservatives...
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Who dat say who dat when I say who dat ?
SmarterthanYou
rebel
so, in the 'mans' world, might makes right. kinda like the bully ideology? is that what you are? a bully? you like picking on the smaller kids?
Liberty
Libertarian Minded
Smear garbage? Those aren't smear dude, they are reality. John did cheat on Jackie, and Eddie did leave that chick to drown.
Topspin
Verified User
I whupp the bully's ass, why you think I'm allways taking up for the pussy democrats
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The Almighty
So now you resort to straw man creation and exaggeration. How typical of you. I never stated that Joe FORCED anyone to commit suicide you complete and total hack. It is NOT slander to state that Joe manipulated the market based on insider trading. It was the very reason FDR stated for putting him in charge of the SEC when it was formed. To PREVENT others from doing the same fucking thing. That is FACT.
I call it a stretch on Teddy when you provide NOTHING other than listing legislation. As I stated, some of them are known to have been fought for by Kennedy. However, all you did was post legislation and then claim he had a big part in it. You simply cut and paste that from a website. You did not link to anything to show WHAT Teddy did. You also ignored the HARM Teddy did. Ask Mary Jo's family.
I agree, she did a lot. She was able to do these things because she didn't have to worry about getting a real job. She was able to live off the family trust that Joe created from his unethical fortune. Again, I never stated the Kennedy clan didn't do any good. I am stating however that YOU are ignoring all of the harm they have done because you are a complete partisan hack.
We already went over the FACT the financial crisis had nothing to do with lower income people buying a home. That has not changed.
Citizens Energy was simply a political tool for the Kennedy clan. You again ignore the bad and simply look at the good. Take a look at the districts that were heavily subsidized by Citizens. Great way to buy votes.
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
Toppy, if I so much as hear someone breathe a hint that you have purchased a firearm, I will never let you hear the end of it. 
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WinterBorn
Guest
Toppy, if I so much as hear someone breathe a hint that you have purchased a firearm, I will never let you hear the end of it.
He claims his wife has one. That is fine, but the rest of us gun owners are big fans of murder, suicide and generally causing the downfall of civilization.
Hmm, I wonder how he likes the fact that he has provided financial support for the gun industry?
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
Toppy is whipped. He probably also thinks that if he confronts her, she'll shoot him. 
Topspin
Verified User
threedork, you'd have to live several lifetimes to hit the amount of pussy I have.
you cousin marrying unwashed unread bubba's can't understand that countries much like ours England and France have figured out how to have a murder rate 4x lower than ours.
Gun Fucking control Morons, why can't you have a fucking tank or bazooka idiots
you cousin marrying unwashed unread bubba's can't understand that countries much like ours England and France have figured out how to have a murder rate 4x lower than ours.
Gun Fucking control Morons, why can't you have a fucking tank or bazooka idiots
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The Almighty
We have three times the drowning rate as the UK..... what do you propose we do about that?
charver
You lookin' at my pint?
Compulsory snorkels?
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
Translation: I have no real response to the question.
Bfgrn
New member
Of course what you are doing is smearing, slandering and disparaging the Kennedys. You can't even give credit without a caveat or a slam. But when to claim you know Joe II's motivations for starting Citizens Energy, it only reveals who and what you are, not the Kennedys.
The children of old man Kennedy were born into wealth, and NONE of them lived the life of leisure. I recall hearing Maria Shriver talking about her mother Eunice. Even after she was married and had a family, she still made herself look 'busy' when her mom entered the room. She would pick up a book and look like she was reading. Idle time was a waste to the Kennedys. Vigor was and is a family trait.
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The Almighty
I think we should go with mandatory air tanks at all times.
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The Almighty
Again, nothing I stated about Joe Kennedy is smearing. It is FACT. Stating a fact is not slander either. As for Bobby's son Joe... again you create a straw man. I never claimed to know his motivations for starting Citizens. What I do know is where the money went. I also know where a good chunk of the money came from.
ROFLMAO.... yeah... they REALLY roughed it.
Seriously, the above shows how much of a partisan hack you are.
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The Almighty
Here, in reverse order of importance, are the top seven Kennedy sex scandals:
Joe Kennedy, son of Robert Kennedy and former Congressman, secretly had his 12-year marriage to Sheila Rauch annulled by the Vatican. Rauch only found out about the annulment years later, after Kennedy remarried. She wrote a very angry book about the experience, Shattered Faith, since the Church's decreeing that the marriage never existed left her twin sons in everlasting limbo. Rauch pointed out that only powerful people like the Kennedy's could unilaterally cancel 12 years of marriage. (This raises the question of whether the Church can gain entry to Heaven for powerful people who have sinned.)
One of the storied political couplings of the twentieth century was between Andrew Cuomo, son of former New York Governor Mario Cuomo, and Kerry Kennedy, daughter of Robert Kennedy. The younger Cuomo was forced to withdraw his own bid for the governorship (although he is now New York's Attorney General) in 2002 when it was revealed that his wife, to whom he had been married 13 years and with whom he had three daughters, had been having a long-term affair with a married man. Kerry Kenedy's philandering shows that Kennedy disregard for marital niceties extends to the distaff side of the family as well.
An extremely unappetizing Kennedy scandal involved Joe's brother and campaign manager, Michael. Like his brother and sister, Michael was stably married with children when it was revealed he had been having an affair with a family babysitter, beginning when the girl was 14! This, of course, is a crime that would get a non-Kennedy registered as a sexual predator. For some reason (perhaps bribery and threats to her and her family), the girl refused to press charges, and Kennedy entered treatment for sex and alcohol addiction. Michael Kennedy had been keeping an extremely low profile when he died in an accident on a family skiing trip.
All of these scandals concerned third-generation Kennedy's. But the stories of sexual assaults, infidelity, and religious hypocrisy began with the family's patriarch, Joe Kennedy. In Swanson on Swanson, silent screen star Gloria Swanson revealed having an affair with Kennedy when, she claimed, he forced himself on her during his business trips to Hollywood when he left his saintly wife, Rose, at home in Massachusetts. (Swanson was most pissed off that, despite his legendary financial acumen, Joe lost a ton of her dough.) Other Kennedy family historians report that the elder Kennedy made advances on his sons' girlfriends!
Back to the younger Kennedy's, in 1991 Kennedy nephew William Smith was charged with rape while staying with uncle Teddy in the family's seaside estate in Palm Beach, FL. The woman claimed she met Smith at a night club at which he was accompanied by Ted Kennedy and his son, Patrick. Later, while ostensibly showing her around the estate, Smith began pursuing and pawing her as she tried to escape. Other women were found who described having similar experiences with the Kennedy nephew, but Smith was acquitted.
Both President Jack Kennedy - whose sexual escapades were legendary - and younger brother Bobby had closely contiguous sexual liaisons with Marilyn Monroe. Numerous conspiracy theories have been developed around the Kennedys' involvement in Monroe's death, which occurred in the aftermath of these affairs. At a minimum, the relationships were extremely damaging to Monroe's fragile mental health.
What could most interfere with Ted Kennedy's legacy (as it frustrated his aspirations to be president) was his involvement in the death of Mary Jo Kopechne. Following a party with six young female campaign workers on the island of Chappaquiddick, Kennedy was giving Kopechne a ride back to her hotel when he drove off a bridge. Kopechne drowned in the car, and Kennedy left the scene to consult with Kennedy family advisers. In fact, he never reported the incident, which was discovered independently the next morning! Kennedy was charged only with leaving the scene of an accident.
Joe Kennedy, son of Robert Kennedy and former Congressman, secretly had his 12-year marriage to Sheila Rauch annulled by the Vatican. Rauch only found out about the annulment years later, after Kennedy remarried. She wrote a very angry book about the experience, Shattered Faith, since the Church's decreeing that the marriage never existed left her twin sons in everlasting limbo. Rauch pointed out that only powerful people like the Kennedy's could unilaterally cancel 12 years of marriage. (This raises the question of whether the Church can gain entry to Heaven for powerful people who have sinned.)
One of the storied political couplings of the twentieth century was between Andrew Cuomo, son of former New York Governor Mario Cuomo, and Kerry Kennedy, daughter of Robert Kennedy. The younger Cuomo was forced to withdraw his own bid for the governorship (although he is now New York's Attorney General) in 2002 when it was revealed that his wife, to whom he had been married 13 years and with whom he had three daughters, had been having a long-term affair with a married man. Kerry Kenedy's philandering shows that Kennedy disregard for marital niceties extends to the distaff side of the family as well.
An extremely unappetizing Kennedy scandal involved Joe's brother and campaign manager, Michael. Like his brother and sister, Michael was stably married with children when it was revealed he had been having an affair with a family babysitter, beginning when the girl was 14! This, of course, is a crime that would get a non-Kennedy registered as a sexual predator. For some reason (perhaps bribery and threats to her and her family), the girl refused to press charges, and Kennedy entered treatment for sex and alcohol addiction. Michael Kennedy had been keeping an extremely low profile when he died in an accident on a family skiing trip.
All of these scandals concerned third-generation Kennedy's. But the stories of sexual assaults, infidelity, and religious hypocrisy began with the family's patriarch, Joe Kennedy. In Swanson on Swanson, silent screen star Gloria Swanson revealed having an affair with Kennedy when, she claimed, he forced himself on her during his business trips to Hollywood when he left his saintly wife, Rose, at home in Massachusetts. (Swanson was most pissed off that, despite his legendary financial acumen, Joe lost a ton of her dough.) Other Kennedy family historians report that the elder Kennedy made advances on his sons' girlfriends!
Back to the younger Kennedy's, in 1991 Kennedy nephew William Smith was charged with rape while staying with uncle Teddy in the family's seaside estate in Palm Beach, FL. The woman claimed she met Smith at a night club at which he was accompanied by Ted Kennedy and his son, Patrick. Later, while ostensibly showing her around the estate, Smith began pursuing and pawing her as she tried to escape. Other women were found who described having similar experiences with the Kennedy nephew, but Smith was acquitted.
Both President Jack Kennedy - whose sexual escapades were legendary - and younger brother Bobby had closely contiguous sexual liaisons with Marilyn Monroe. Numerous conspiracy theories have been developed around the Kennedys' involvement in Monroe's death, which occurred in the aftermath of these affairs. At a minimum, the relationships were extremely damaging to Monroe's fragile mental health.
What could most interfere with Ted Kennedy's legacy (as it frustrated his aspirations to be president) was his involvement in the death of Mary Jo Kopechne. Following a party with six young female campaign workers on the island of Chappaquiddick, Kennedy was giving Kopechne a ride back to her hotel when he drove off a bridge. Kopechne drowned in the car, and Kennedy left the scene to consult with Kennedy family advisers. In fact, he never reported the incident, which was discovered independently the next morning! Kennedy was charged only with leaving the scene of an accident.