Conservatives: you are losing the GOP

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We need a strong 2-party system in America. We should have even more than that - but we need at least 2.

I'm sure the GOP will win the mid-terms. But the party itself is going down the rabbit hole, rapidly. Trump is still very involved w/ party leadership and plays a significant role in determining the candidates we'll see for the House and Senate. "The Big Lie" has become the main qualifier for any prospective candidate, and even for incumbents to keep their positions.

And we're seeing quite a few reasonable Republicans decide it's no longer for them. These aren't "moderates" or "Rinos" - many are real conservatives, who don't want any part of conspiracies and lies, and just want to get back to good governance and conservative principles. They're being replaced by people on the fringes (trying to be polite here). These are not people who are interested in the country succeeding as it is currently structured.

And we're headed toward the equivalent of fight club in Congress, every day. Grandstanding and trying to get headlines instead of working for the people.

When Liz Cheney can't fist bump the President of the United States without talk radio and twitter erupting in fury, we're in trouble. The GOP needs to find itself again.

Nothing dumber than a lying, leftist political hack giving advice to Conservatives. Of course, being a low IQ moron, you're too stupid to comprehend how stupid you look.

 

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They aren’t losing the party, it has already been lost, the Republican Party today is Trump. It has no ideals, no principles, no doctrine, no ideology or policies, it is just Trump, what Trump says and does is the GOP.

I don't think you can post without lying and looking like a moron. What ideas and principles does the Democratic Party of the Jackass bring to the table. other than FREE stuff, abortions and power grabbing?

I wish you could be less of a partisan hack moron, really I do.

Republican Agenda:

JOBS

Create 10 Million New Jobs in 10 Months
Create 1 Million New Small Businesses
Cut Taxes to Boost Take-Home Pay and Keep Jobs in America
Enact Fair Trade Deals that Protect American Jobs
'Made in America' Tax Credits
Expand Opportunity Zones
Continue Deregulatory Agenda for Energy Independence

ERADICATE COVID-19

Develop a Vaccine by The End Of 2020
Return to Normal in 2021
Make All Critical Medicines and Supplies for Healthcare Workers in The United States
Refill Stockpiles and Prepare for Future Pandemics

END OUR RELIANCE ON CHINA

Bring Back 1 Million Manufacturing Jobs from China
Tax Credits for Companies that Bring Back Jobs from China
Allow 100% Expensing Deductions for Essential Industries like Pharmaceuticals and Robotics who Bring *Back their Manufacturing to the United States
No Federal Contracts for Companies who Outsource to China
Hold China Fully Accountable for Allowing the Virus to Spread around the World

HEALTHCARE

Cut Prescription Drug Prices
Put Patients and Doctors Back in Charge of our Healthcare System
Lower Healthcare Insurance Premiums
End Surprise Billing
Cover All Pre-Existing Conditions
Protect Social Security and Medicare
Protect Our Veterans and Provide World-Class Healthcare and Services

EDUCATION

Provide School Choice to Every Child in America
Teach American Exceptionalism

DRAIN THE SWAMP

Pass Congressional Term Limits
End Bureaucratic Government Bullying of U.S. Citizens and Small Businesses
Expose Washington’s Money Trail and Delegate Powers Back to People and States
Drain the Globalist Swamp by Taking on International Organizations That Hurt American Citizens

DEFEND OUR POLICE

Fully Fund and Hire More Police and Law Enforcement Officers
Increase Criminal Penalties for Assaults on Law Enforcement Officers
Prosecute Drive-By Shootings as Acts of Domestic Terrorism
Bring Violent Extremist Groups Like ANTIFA to Justice
End Cashless Bail and Keep Dangerous Criminals Locked Up until Trial

END ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND PROTECT AMERICAN WORKERS

Block Illegal Immigrants from Becoming Eligible for Taxpayer-Funded Welfare, Healthcare, and Free College Tuition
Mandatory Deportation for Non-Citizen Gang Members
Dismantle Human Trafficking Networks
End Sanctuary Cities to Restore our Neighborhoods and Protect our Families
Prohibit American Companies from Replacing United States Citizens with Lower-Cost Foreign Workers
Require New Immigrants to Be Able to Support Themselves Financially

INNOVATE FOR THE FUTURE

Launch Space Force, Establish Permanent Manned Presence on The Moon and Send the First Manned Mission to Mars
Build the World’s Greatest Infrastructure System
Win the Race to 5G and Establish a National High-Speed Wireless Internet Network
Continue to Lead the World in Access to the Cleanest Drinking Water and Cleanest Air
Partner with Other Nations to Clean Up our Planet’s Oceans

AMERICA FIRST FOREIGN POLICY

Stop Endless Wars and Bring Our Troops Home
Get Allies to Pay their Fair Share
Maintain and Expand America’s Unrivaled Military Strength
Wipe Out Global Terrorists Who Threaten to Harm Americans
Build a Great Cybersecurity Defense System and Missile Defense System

DEFEND AMERICAN VALUES

Continue nominating constitutionalist Supreme Court and lower court judges
Protect unborn life through every means available
Defend the freedoms of religious believers and organizations
Support the exercise of Second Amendment rights

Democratic Party of the Jackass Agenda:

Create more Government dependency.
Attack the job creators
Ignore our Immigration laws
Bury future generations in permanent debt
Empower their one party rule even if it means destroying our institutions

 

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Yes, we know monkey-brained MAGAs can't handle criticism without violence, thanks for the confirmation.

So the massive riots and attacks on republican candidates is all about handling criticism and peace? Be less of a dishonest hack.

Here's some of those peace loving lefties now:

Woman in gorilla mask in LA attacks Larry Elder on street

 

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They already are, limiting voting opportunities by making it harder for some to vote.

Another bald faced lie promoted by the Fascistic Democratic Party of the Jackass.

I would love to see how anyone's chances to vote have been "limited." Everyone knows the rules. Everyone with a brain plays by them, except of course low IQ leftists who can't read, write or get a photo ID.

 

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I wouldn't be so sure about that for a number of reasons...

1. No Trump on the ticket means Trump voters aren't going to show up.

2. The 100,000-300,000 Conservatives who will die of COVID between now and November 2022; that will be enough to make the difference in several races next year, including FL's pivotal Governor and Senate races.

3. The GOP got shellacked during the recall in the CA seats it narrowly won last year with Trump on the ticket, so most of those 2020 seats the GOP won from Democrats, particularly in CA, are going to go back to the Democrats in the next election.

4. Redistricting may net the GOP a handful of seats, but that cuts both ways, with OR cementing the D's 5-1 Congressional majority (as an example) and PA and NY having to draw new districts to account for the loss of seats via the census. That will probably squeeze the GOP out of 1 seat in PA and 1 seat in NY.

5. Do not underestimate the youth vote and turnout, particularly after the GOP made them political pawns this year and last with COVID.

6. A lot can happen between now and November 2022, but a lot has to break the GOP's way in order to seize any momentum from Biden and the Democrats.

7. If SCOTUS overturns Roe, the GOP is going to be decimated next year by women voters.

^Dumbass thinks Democrats are winning.

 

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THe D's are now the party driving tyranny.

THe R's are now the party defending the Constitution and freedom.

Only one is on the right side of history.

 

[Stringfellow Hawk]

Only if they cheat. And they will certain try to cheat.

they won't have to, Biden's message is similar to Hillary

 

[Truth Detector]

Back to "good governance and conservative principles" has not been at all part of the GOP platform for decades.

How so? Be specific with your answer. Or, is this just another of your "because I say so" bullshit.

 

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Nifty caricature lol.

Try telling folks in the Rio Grande valley that MAGA is ‘just Trump’. Then prepare to duck.

Totally irrelevant, in fact, the GOP view, your view, on anything in the Rio Grande valley originates with Trump, if he said tomorrow that the situation was well under control you would be here defending what he said

 

[Stringfellow Hawk]

They already are, limiting voting opportunities by making it harder for some to vote. They must have gotten a lot of guff from Seniors in Texas, because they removed the copy of your ID with mail in ballot provision. It didn’t make it into the bill Abbott signed.

They are not, it may seem that way since most of your base doesn't vote if they have to leave the couch

 

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Conservative principles are based in racism and bigotry...

LIE, LAME and moronic.

Conservatism is not redeemable.

That would be Democrats dumbass.

"Conservatism stands athwart history, yelling STOP!" was what William F. Buckley, the Godfather of the Conservative movement, wrote less than 6 months after Brown v. Board of Education.

LIE, LAME and moronic.

And then you had his protege, Lee Atwater, say this shit in 1981:
How can anyone conclude Conservatism isn't racist, bigoted fascism?

LIE, LAME and moronic.

 

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Eisenhower was no Conservative.

Eisenhower was as antifa as one could get...no American killed more Nazis than Ike, and he expanded social services and desegregated the military.

Try finding a Conservative who supports either of those things today.

 

[Stringfellow Hawk]

I would say the democrats are in the rabbit hole as they can't even hold together for an infrastructure bill

 

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It IS Trump's party in the fact that economic nationalism ( America first) and secure borders
are a commonality.
But warpigs like Liz Cheney and david Frum, and George Will are all yours

Economic nationalism and secure borders are talking points that have been around long before Trump, and will continue long after Trump, all he did was demagogue the terms to serve his purpose

 

[Hawkeye10]

There is a Christopher Hitchens quote that I saw on a Youtube which I sadly cant remember exactly anymore, and it would be a chore to find, that goes something like:

"At the very least measure up enough to resist tyranny".

 

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There is a Christopher Hitchens quote that I saw on a Youtube which I sadly cant remember exactly anymore, and it would be a chore to find, that goes something like:

"At the very least measure up enough to resist tyranny".

Just another bullshit talking point, "tyranny," "freedom,' "Constitution," all abstract thoughts the right has reduced to bumper sticker clichés, and the lemmings swallow them whole without the least understanding what they mean

 

[Hawkeye10]

Just another bullshit talking point, "tyranny," "freedom,' "Constitution," all abstract thoughts the right has reduced to bumper sticker clichés, and the lemmings swallow them whole without the least understanding what they mean

You are here either an idiot or a liar.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello BartenderElite,

We need a strong 2-party system in America. We should have even more than that - but we need at least 2.

I'm sure the GOP will win the mid-terms. But the party itself is going down the rabbit hole, rapidly. Trump is still very involved w/ party leadership and plays a significant role in determining the candidates we'll see for the House and Senate. "The Big Lie" has become the main qualifier for any prospective candidate, and even for incumbents to keep their positions.

And we're seeing quite a few reasonable Republicans decide it's no longer for them. These aren't "moderates" or "Rinos" - many are real conservatives, who don't want any part of conspiracies and lies, and just want to get back to good governance and conservative principles. They're being replaced by people on the fringes (trying to be polite here). These are not people who are interested in the country succeeding as it is currently structured.

And we're headed toward the equivalent of fight club in Congress, every day. Grandstanding and trying to get headlines instead of working for the people.

When Liz Cheney can't fist bump the President of the United States without talk radio and twitter erupting in fury, we're in trouble. The GOP needs to find itself again.

It's remarkable that the GOP is both campaigning on and driving the loss of respect for government.

We've got a great country with a good government. Democrats are positively trying to improve it. Republicans are negatively obsessed with dwelling on everything they see wrong with it, and blocking progress.

The main driver of Republican voting is disgust.

It's not hard to see why good people are walking away from that.

 

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You are here either an idiot or a liar.

Nah, just informed, you need proof, quickly, in your own words, and without borrowing from an Internet dictionary, define freedom. Tell us what freedom is, don't give us examples, but explain the concept

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello cawacko,

To me this is one of those "it sounds good in theory" when you say we should have a strong two party system but it's not what you really want. I look at California where we had Arnold and Meg Whitman run for Governor. They weren't Trump Republicans. Yet they were called the same racist/deplorable and every other negative label you would someone who was more in line with Trump. Now part of that is the regular election partisanship we all engage in. Nonetheless they were viewed no differently. So I don't buy this idea that Democrats want more like them.

You'll just end up with what we have in many places in California. Everyone's a Democrat just some are labeled "moderate" and others progressive.

That sounds like an improvement.