christiefan915
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Tell me what you want to know and I'll quote it.
Comey lies 200 times
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Tell me what you want to know and I'll quote it.
christiefan915
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You mean you'll search for it.
Clearly I don't have every page committed to memory but I took some notes and page numbers.montgomery
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Think outside the box: https://www.ft.com/content/a08b7420-1405-11e3-9289-00144feabdc0
I'll stick with my assertion and defend it.
But I won't go out shopping for a dictionary yet, even though I suspect I could find one.
Sorry, you don’t get to make your own definitions
Sure you did. Were you guided in your selective fault-finding by any DEMOCRAT-infested media reports?
montgomery
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So Comey is a homophobe.
So I would suggest that Comey effectively smacked down Nadler! And probably got a laugh for his effort too!
What a feeble comeback legion. You do a lot better when you stick to your profanity and spamming.
Think so?
montgomery
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Sure I do. I don't get to do everything I want but I sure the hell get to do that!
glad you got past that nonsense that gross negligence requires intent.
The statute obviously does not. Further there was a submarine sailor who took pics of his sub for personal use
who WAS prosecuted but had no intent to do harm.
Trump had the good graces to pardon him even if there is a 2 tiered justice system by corrupt DoJ
and the corrupt reasons gave for not prosecuting HRClinton. but he still did federal time- 12 months in jail
Trump pardons sailor convicted of taking illegal photos aboard submarine
https://www.navytimes.com/news/pent...ed-of-taking-illegal-photos-aboard-submarine/
In court, Saucier acknowledged that he took six photos of his work station aboard an attack submarine in violation of Navy rules.
He said the reason was not to jeopardize sensitive information about the vessel, but instead to keep as a memento
of his time on board.
Trump’s pardon removes the felony conviction from Saucier’s record but will not make the former sailor automatically available for military and veteran benefits.
montgomery
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I think you've avoided addressing my point that Comey and Mueller are working together to bring down Trump. But I'll relent and back off on using the word, 'collusion' if that's your sticking point.
Intent plays a very big part of determining suitable punishment and it's likely that most cases where there was no criminal or malicious intent resulted in suspended sentences. But let's not lose the topic. Comey and Mueller are likely BFF! or you might just as well resign yourself to the equivalent of that for our intent and purposes.
the whole thing was rank partisanship.
The interview of Clinton was the same BS Comey pulled "I don't remember I don't recall"
I think she only pulled that though 67 times in this one interview.
The interview was pro forma -Comey and Strzok already wrote the exoneration where they changed the written
"gross negligence" to "extreme careless - a distinction without a difference-
except that doesn't use the exact same language as the statute. Giving Comey wiggle room not to prosecute her
Abedin and some other Clinton dweeb were given transactional immunity as well.
one of these dweebs also got to sit in as a witness, even though he/she was acting as a lawyer for Clinton
( If I can recall all the details of that pig circus)
I won't even go into the farce of the FBI investigation that Comey said was on 4 individuals -
even though the FISA was just on Page. Clearly Page was set up to get access to his Emails,
which got access to others in the campaign.
The litany of FISA abuse, non disclosure of the EC, and the DoJ protecting itself from Congressional oversight
was the biggest violation of due process ( FISA abuse) and the Constitutional rights of Page.
And I'm not even going into Yates saying Logan act violations put Flynn in jeopardy from "Russian agents"
and the rest of the horseshit that spawned Mueller. The unmaskings at record pace by Powers etc.
Dems used to be about civil liberties and you would think they would recoil after the Starr chamber.
But they are nothing more then rank partisans, infected with TDS since the night of the election
the sailor did 12 months with n o intent to do harm .intent is a red herring.
just another reason that showed Comey was in the tank for Clinton.. I won't even go into texts etc.
montgomery
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What the hell do you think you're arguing? The sailor would likely be doing a life sentence for treason if intent was shown or proven!
As to Comey's own personal preferences which shouldn't have been a part of his professional thoughts and actions? They probably did! But proving it is a very different matter. But really anatta, aren't you attempting to rise to a much higher standard than is applicable to anything happening in your country now that has been influenced by Trump's behaviour? Isn't it far, far beyond reasonable and appropriate behaviour?
Who really cares how Comey did it if he's able to drive a wooden stake through Trump's evil heart?
YOu're not playing in my sandbox anatta. I'm not an American and I'm not a Dem supporter either. I'm a Trump hater, to put it concisely.
Yes, I remember that they were business acquaintances .. Trump is real screwed up.. He raves and gushes calling his business associates his dear friends... and then he turns on them just as quickly.
cool.then I won't take your arguments seriously if you can't defend "how Comey did it" ( bolded)
You are all over the place on your argument .
The point was intent is not necessary for conviction ( much less an indictment ) of 'gross negligence'
for the sailor, but was cited by Comey as a reason not to indict Clinton.
Your Trump Derangement Syndrome isn't unique - the entire Democrat party is so infected
but it's not a ready made excuse either for unequal justice under the law.
Trump's collusion denial is like Al Capone saying: "But see, they couldn't get me for murder," CNN...
5 hours ago
"[Trump] chirping giddily about 'no collusion' is a little like Al Capone bragging, 'But see, they couldn't get me for murder!' when he's just been convicted of tax fraud," the pundit ...
Republican CNN host S.E. Cupp has mocked Donald Trump’s defense of himself in the wake of a sentencing memo alleging his central role in federal crimes, comparing the president to notorious American gangster Al Capone.
"[Trump] chirping giddily about 'no collusion' is a little like Al Capone bragging, 'But see, they couldn't get me for murder!' when he's just been convicted of tax fraud," the pundit, who regularly criticizes the president despite her conservative political views, said on her Saturday television program S.E. Cupp: Unfiltered . "[Capone] still went to prison for a very long time,” she pointed out.
Capone was a legendary American gangster – also known as “Scarface” – during the Prohibition Era. He was a crime boss based out of Chicago and was believed to be behind numerous murders and other crimes. However, he was eventually arrested for tax evasion.
Cupp’s comments came in response to a Saturday tweet by the president, in which he wrote: “AFTER TWO YEARS AND MILLIONS OF PAGES OF DOCUMENTS (and a cost of over $30,000,000), NO COLLUSION!” Trump also told reporters that his legal team is “very happy” with the memos coming out of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s ongoing probe.
Pushing back against the president’s assessment, Cupp pointed out that Trump was incorrect in believing that his name had somehow been cleared of alleged collusion. “This investigation could definitely still find evidence of collusion with Russians,” she said. “It could already be in these very findings, they’re heavily redacted,” she pointed out.
Federal prosecutors believe that Trump played a central role in his ex-attorney Michael Cohen’s admitted crime of paying off Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal to keep their alleged extramarital affairs with the then presidential candidate secret. A sentencing memo released on Friday – identifying Trump as “Individual 1” – accused the president of leading the criminal conspiracy.
Trump also tweeted about the memo on Friday, saying: “Totally clears the President. Thank you!” Critics and politicians were quick to criticize Trump’s comment, wondering if he was somehow unaware that “Individual 1” was a reference to himself.
George Conway, a lawyer and the husband of White House adviser Kellyanne Conway, mocked the president’s dismissal of the report. Retweeting Trump’s post, Conway wrote: “Except for that little part where the US Attorney’s Office says that you directed and coordinated with Cohen to commit two felonies. Other than that, totally scot-free.”
continued
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-collusion-denial-compared-gangster-al-capone-1251154
montgomery
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Now you're getting it! I don't defend Comey and nobody else needs to because I contend that he's always going to come out the winner against Trump, in the eyes of the majority.
Clinton was an evil bitch and was the worst possible choice the Dems could have made. She was likely the only politician they could have chosen who wouldn't have beaten Trump. Mostly because of her appearance as a frumpy fat cow. That's what's most important in US politics. Comey's statement on the sailor comparison will live through the whole thing because it's being decided to be right on the political basis alone.
If I can't convince you that I'm a Canadian and I abhor the Democrats as much as the Repubs, then we're going nowhere. Find something to debate with me if you like. I've already probably got a few hundred opinions stated on this board.
the problem is Comey and the 7th Floor asshats of DoJ leadership used all kinds of bogus reasons to start the FBI counter intelligence investigation. That begot the evil spawn of Mueller who is a political hack running a bunch of political hack lawyers out to crucify Trump. nothing more.
That bothers me not just as a Trump supporter, but as an American in 67 (sic) different ways
mixing politics and law for Machiavellian outcomes is something we do not tolerate.
at least of the face of things.
I agree she was a terrible choice. I actually supported her in 2008.
Her lead role in the destruction of Libya changed that for me, and the more one looks at her
now and zen - the more disgusting she is
fair enough. putting your cards on the table is useful in reading your posts