Charles Blow: We Need A Second Great Migration

dukkha said:
IOWs rents can be lowered, but that brings down housing prices..and landlords need to make money

So the "go to" is Section 8 - which damages the neighborhood.
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Is bringing down property values necessarily a bad thing? When one bedrooms cost $3,500/mmth and a home costs $1m plus how affordable is that to the average person or how sustainable is that if it keeps going? Our population continues to grow but we have people fighting against new development which only drives up pricing. That's great if you already own but not so much otherwise. It makes for a less dynamic economy and reduces opportunity for people.
 
dukkha said:
"confronted" what do you want to do -rub their noses in it like a bad dog that wets the floor?
Dems are such moralistic dullards.

Do you have any idea what happens when Section 8 is forced into a working class neighborhood?
Of course not they didn't teach you that at Fascist University did they?
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No, I'm totally ignorant, and you're my intellectual superior. Please explain it to me, citing innumerable examples that I'm sure you have at the ready, given your heady confidence in spouting this shit.
 
cawacko said:
Is bringing down property values necessarily a bad thing? When one bedrooms cost $3,500/mmth and a home costs $1m plus how affordable is that to the average person or how sustainable is that if it keeps going? Our population continues to grow but we have people fighting against new development which only drives up pricing. That's great if you already own but not so much otherwise. It makes for a less dynamic economy and reduces opportunity for people.
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Exactly. Class segregation is no better for society than racial segregation.
 
Jerome said:
No, I'm totally ignorant, and you're my intellectual superior. Please explain it to me, citing innumerable examples that I'm sure you have at the ready, given your heady confidence in spouting this shit.
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To answer his question, the niggers move in.


I Bless you my child
 
Peace n Safety said:
Yes, I know. Humor. Only whites can be racist per the blm handbook. Apparently you are to bow down now.


I Bless you my child
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I'm laughing because everytime I meet a racist shitbag who says "I'm not white" it usually means they have one Hispanic grandparent or some shit.


I'm not shocked at all that you miss every point thrown your way.
 
Jerome said:
Exactly. Class segregation is no better for society than racial segregation.
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In a number of these well to do areas it's becoming very bi-fricated, you have the rich and poor and a very shrining middle. It's far from ideal.
 
cawacko said:
In a number of these well to do areas it's becoming very bi-fricated, you have the rich and poor and a very shrining middle. It's far from ideal.
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The modern trend for urban planning is mixed-type housing. We live in a single-family home, but we're a block from townhomes, condos, and apartments. It actually makes for a vibrant, enjoyable community.
 
Jerome said:
The modern trend for urban planning is mixed-type housing. We live in a single-family home, but we're a block from townhomes, condos, and apartments. It actually makes for a vibrant, enjoyable community.
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I live in a high rise condo. I can go several blocks in one direction and see extremely expensive homes. I can go several blocks in the other direction and be at a number of strip clubs. The 'beauty' of urban living. But I too enjoy it very much and it is very vibrant.

My preference would be to stay in the City forever but having a young daughter other factors come into play. So as much as I don't want to we've given consideration of moving to the 'burbs. I get the appeal of having a single family home with a yard in a neighborhood with other families and good public schools. I understand that when people move into those types of neighborhoods they usually aren't gung ho to see them change much. I also know the history of segregation and how zoning was used to shape neighborhoods. Thus my support for new development and changing many of the single-family only zoning both comes from a free market perspective as well as the opportunity such development can provide.
 
cawacko said:
I live in a high rise condo. I can go several blocks in one direction and see extremely expensive homes. I can go several blocks in the other direction and be at a number of strip clubs. The 'beauty' of urban living. But I too enjoy it very much and it is very vibrant.

My preference would be to stay in the City forever but having a young daughter other factors come into play. So as much as I don't want to we've given consideration of moving to the 'burbs. I get the appeal of having a single family home with a yard in a neighborhood with other families and good public schools. I understand that when people move into those types of neighborhoods they usually aren't gung ho to see them change much. I also know the history of segregation and how zoning was used to shape neighborhoods. Thus my support for new development and changing many of the single-family only zoning both comes from a free market perspective as well as the opportunity such development can provide.
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My view:
1. If you're 'young', you want to live in a 'Metro Area' where you can meet other young people.
2. Once you become married and have children, you want 'clean air, clean water, and open spaces', which means moving to Suburbia.
3. Most people want to move into a Subdivision that reflects their 'economic status'. Meaning 'Gated Communities', 'Zoned Single-Family', 'Mix of Family Units', 'Trailer Parks'.
4. Black or White, I would guess 50% want to live in a 'Community' that reflects their race.

I tried to elicit this from BAC, but he didn't reply.
 
The point I'm trying to make here, and to which I think BAC eluded to, was that all Blacks AREN'T clamoring to move into 'White Neighborhoods'.
Successful Blacks that can move anywhere, I would guess 50% would choose a 'Black Neighborhood'. And I mean that with 'economic status' as a consideration. No Black wants to move into a Black Trailer Park if they can afford to move into a 'Zoned Single-Family' neighborhood.




cawacko said:
I live in a high rise condo. I can go several blocks in one direction and see extremely expensive homes. I can go several blocks in the other direction and be at a number of strip clubs. The 'beauty' of urban living. But I too enjoy it very much and it is very vibrant.

My preference would be to stay in the City forever but having a young daughter other factors come into play. So as much as I don't want to we've given consideration of moving to the 'burbs. I get the appeal of having a single family home with a yard in a neighborhood with other families and good public schools. I understand that when people move into those types of neighborhoods they usually aren't gung ho to see them change much. I also know the history of segregation and how zoning was used to shape neighborhoods. Thus my support for new development and changing many of the single-family only zoning both comes from a free market perspective as well as the opportunity such development can provide.
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Jerome said:
It's a mess because of the poverty created by centuries of colonialism, but hey, far be it from me to spoil your vaguely racist takes.
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No. It is because of one party rule Jerome. Then again I doubt you would know that living in your mothers basement.
 
RomanDmowski said:
I can move to Ireland or Poland presumably because of my ancestry.

Both, are looking wonderful compared to the USA, right about now.
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You need help getting a tix?? We can pass the hat around for that one way.

Toss in a free covid test & a bag lunch from your favorite Deli........:laugh:
 
RomanDmowski said:
I was waiting for one of you dumb anti Racists to make such a stupid statement.

South Africa was colonized longer & is richer by African standards.

Ethiopia & Liberia weren't officially colonized & are poor by African standards.
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Ethiopia was, for a while by Italy & the league of nations did nothing, & many quietly approved.......

So why not lay out the virtues & benefits to Africa via the colonization....
 
RomanDmowski said:
Nonsense.
Irish & Eastern Europeans were treated like Sub Human garbage & still sometimes are.

Nonsense.
Singapore had almost no arable land & was a former colony now it's among the richest nations on Earth.
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I mostly agree about the Irish & many in Eastern & Central Europe but I don't think Singapore fits here..

It was not till after colonization that they really took off & IMHO much more cred is owed to the ppl there (many there as a result of colonization) & specially to Lee Kuan Yew & his strong early leadership..........
 
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