CDC DROPS U.S death toll from Corona numbers by tens of thousands

Dems,...deepstate,...China. THAT is who did this. Gonna be hell to pay,...and right soon.
 
Wait, weren't we told that more than 60,000 Americans had already died from the Chinese disease?

What happened? Resurrections?

You know what happened...LOL Inflated the numbers,...took seasonal flu deaths and added them to Covid 19 deaths as we said all along.
 
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm


Actually cut it in HALF! Great news. Shame the left wont see it as great. Whole thing was a scam from the start. New death toll........ 37,308.

These numbers mean nothing at this point, we still know very little about this bug (mostly because our alleged experts suck at their day jobs), and we have no idea when we will find effective treatments.

We are only a half a year into what could easily be a three year war.
 
These numbers mean nothing at this point, we still know very little about this bug (mostly because our alleged experts suck at their day jobs), and we have no idea when we will find effective treatments.

We are only a half a year into what could easily be a three year war.

We need an accurate mortality rate.

There’s reason for optimism it will land in the same vicinity as the flu. If it does, it will calm a lot of nerves.

There’s also hope on the horizon for treatments. I don’t see it ‘going’ as in being The War for three years like it is now.
 
We need an accurate mortality rate.

There’s reason for optimism it will land in the same vicinity as the flu. If it does, it will calm a lot of nerves.

There’s also hope on the horizon for treatments. I don’t see it ‘going’ as in being The War for three years like it is now.

Why dont we have that 6 months in?

OH YA, Our experts suck!
 
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm


Actually cut it in HALF! Great news. Shame the left wont see it as great. Whole thing was a scam from the start. New death toll........ 37,308.

From the site:

“the data shown on this page may be incomplete, and will likely not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for the more recent time periods. Death counts for earlier weeks are continually revised and may increase or decrease as new and updated death certificate data are received from the states by NCHS. COVID-19 death counts shown here may differ from other published sources, as data currently are lagged by an average of 1–2 weeks.”

“Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more, depending on the jurisdiction, age, and cause of death.”

:rofl2:
 
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm


Actually cut it in HALF! Great news. Shame the left wont see it as great. Whole thing was a scam from the start. New death toll........ 37,308.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/coronavirus-death-toll-cdc-misinformation

No, The CDC Did Not Revise Down The Number Of COVID-19 Deaths

Several tweets went viral that falsely claimed the CDC had drastically revised down the number of deaths in the US from the coronavirus — but it seems some people didn't read to the end of the page.

Several tweets went viral on Saturday that falsely accused the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention of drastically revising down the number of COVID-19 deaths in the US, inflaming conspiracy theories that the coronavirus is not as serious as officials claim.

As of Saturday, the CDC says more than 64,000 people have died in the US, but the false tweets accused them of quietly cutting that figure in half.

The most prominent tweet came from right-wing media personality Tim Young.

Young linked to a provisional count of COVID-19 deaths from the National Vital Statistics System, an inter-governmental system which tracks births and deaths in the US and which on Friday night put the figure close to 37,000.

Many responses to Young's tweet accused the media of a conspiracy in ignoring the "true" death toll count.

But the table Young links to clearly states that data only covers the period from Feb. 1 to April 25.

Moreover, the National Vital Statistics System website makes clear that it has a significant lag in counting deaths because it relies on tabulating official death certificates it receives.
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"It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), processed, coded, and tabulated," reads a prominent disclaimer above the data. "Therefore, the data shown on this page may be incomplete, and will likely not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for the more recent time periods."

"Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes," reads another footnote.

In comparison, the CDC’s actual most up-to-date count of COVID-19 deaths is on a separate site and shows more than 64,000 people have died in the US.

As the CDC states, that tally is updated daily based on data received from state health bodies: "Case notifications were received by CDC from U.S. public health jurisdictions and the National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System (NNDSS)."

Neither that CDC figure, nor the National Vital Statistics System page, have been revised down.

In its count, the CDC also includes cases where coronavirus was the probable cause of death, not simply the confirmed cause of death. As the CDC states, "A probable case or death is defined by one of the following: Meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19; Meeting presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence; Meeting vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID19."

Since the onset of the pandemic, coronavirus "truthers" have been pushing false narratives that claim the virus is concocted, largely overblown, or that health organizations are lying about how many people are really sick. Last month, a former Fox News commentator shared a video aiming to show that hospitals aren't as overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients as the media has portrayed.
 
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/coronavirus-death-toll-cdc-misinformation

No, The CDC Did Not Revise Down The Number Of COVID-19 Deaths

Several tweets went viral that falsely claimed the CDC had drastically revised down the number of deaths in the US from the coronavirus — but it seems some people didn't read to the end of the page.

Several tweets went viral on Saturday that falsely accused the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention of drastically revising down the number of COVID-19 deaths in the US, inflaming conspiracy theories that the coronavirus is not as serious as officials claim.

As of Saturday, the CDC says more than 64,000 people have died in the US, but the false tweets accused them of quietly cutting that figure in half.

The most prominent tweet came from right-wing media personality Tim Young.

Young linked to a provisional count of COVID-19 deaths from the National Vital Statistics System, an inter-governmental system which tracks births and deaths in the US and which on Friday night put the figure close to 37,000.

Many responses to Young's tweet accused the media of a conspiracy in ignoring the "true" death toll count.

But the table Young links to clearly states that data only covers the period from Feb. 1 to April 25.

Moreover, the National Vital Statistics System website makes clear that it has a significant lag in counting deaths because it relies on tabulating official death certificates it receives.
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"It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), processed, coded, and tabulated," reads a prominent disclaimer above the data. "Therefore, the data shown on this page may be incomplete, and will likely not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for the more recent time periods."

"Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes," reads another footnote.

In comparison, the CDC’s actual most up-to-date count of COVID-19 deaths is on a separate site and shows more than 64,000 people have died in the US.

As the CDC states, that tally is updated daily based on data received from state health bodies: "Case notifications were received by CDC from U.S. public health jurisdictions and the National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System (NNDSS)."

Neither that CDC figure, nor the National Vital Statistics System page, have been revised down.

In its count, the CDC also includes cases where coronavirus was the probable cause of death, not simply the confirmed cause of death. As the CDC states, "A probable case or death is defined by one of the following: Meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19; Meeting presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence; Meeting vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID19."

Since the onset of the pandemic, coronavirus "truthers" have been pushing false narratives that claim the virus is concocted, largely overblown, or that health organizations are lying about how many people are really sick. Last month, a former Fox News commentator shared a video aiming to show that hospitals aren't as overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients as the media has portrayed.

Nice copy and paste lol.

There’s no escaping the fact the CDC lists ‘died from COVID’ separately from ‘died with COVID’ and the total number of deaths is lower after subtracting the ‘with COVID’ number.

In order to get an accurate CFR we are only interested in the ‘died from’ number. If someone dies from end stage renal failure but tests positive for COVID—including them would skew the data and yield an inaccurate *and misleading* CFR.

Stop playing politics with the data.
 
I doubt there will ever be such a statistic. Is there an accurate mortality rate for anything, lol?

It’s an estimate, yeah lol.

You can make a fatality rate for anything. Driving a car for example. If someone wanted to estimate the probability of a person dying in an accident in a given trial, they could run some numbers. Insurance actuaries might do it even. It would be a rough estimate but probably in the ballpark.

And if you want to skew the data to make driving seem really scary—include drunks and texters.
 
Nice copy and paste lol.

There’s no escaping the fact the CDC lists ‘died from COVID’ separately from ‘died with COVID’ and the total number of deaths is lower after subtracting the ‘with COVID’ number.

In order to get an accurate CFR we are only interested in the ‘died from’ number. If someone dies from end stage renal failure but tests positive for COVID—including them would skew the data and yield an inaccurate *and misleading* CFR.

Stop playing politics with the data.

Why do you assume everyone is playing politics?

Did Donald Trump tell you that?

I am quoting only facts, and for your information, before I cut and pasted anything else, I cut and pasted the link to the story!

So butt a stump! OK?
 
Why do you assume everyone is playing politics?

Did Donald Trump tell you that?

I am quoting only facts, and for your information, before I cut and pasted anything else, I cut and pasted the link to the story!

So butt a stump! OK?

Some people seem resistant to getting accurate data lol.

The only reason for that, that I can think of, is there’s some sort of an agenda at work.
 
From the site:

“the data shown on this page may be incomplete, and will likely not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for the more recent time periods. Death counts for earlier weeks are continually revised and may increase or decrease as new and updated death certificate data are received from the states by NCHS. COVID-19 death counts shown here may differ from other published sources, as data currently are lagged by an average of 1–2 weeks.”

“Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more, depending on the jurisdiction, age, and cause of death.”

:rofl2:
so you are saying you still have hope for more dead?.....
 
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