Can Republicans show me the part of the Constitution that requires publishing?

oh I see, since some lady has a website, Twitter should be allowed to deplatform based on ideology.

Your terminology is off. Deplatform is taking someone's website away.

The Constitution gives Twitter the right to decide what it wants to say. The government does not have the right to force them to disseminate opinions they do not want to. They have a constitutional right to base it on ideology.

But in this case it is not based on ideology, it is based on danger of inciting violence.
 
230 does not seem to have much to do with anything. It explicitly states that platforms are allowed to continue to have editorial rights. There is no requirement for either platforms or book publishers to publish anything they do not want to.

it doesn't address that issue in enough detail. it's mostly an immunity for prosecution for libel slander, and doesn't adress the responsibilities that go with that protection, such as much less editorial rights than a publisher. typical fascist bullshit law.

privatization of the commons demands these safeguards.
 
Your terminology is off. Deplatform is taking someone's website away.

The Constitution gives Twitter the right to decide what it wants to say. The government does not have the right to force them to disseminate opinions they do not want to. They have a constitutional right to base it on ideology.

But in this case it is not based on ideology, it is based on danger of inciting violence.

no.

deplatform means kicking someone off twitter, facebook, whatever site.

or we can use a different term for that. what do you want to call it?

liars all play word games in the end.
 
It's not exactly what you said. There are state statutes against hate speech which have to this point not been struck down.

There are state statues. Federal law over rules those though. Article VI, Paragraph 2 of the U.S. Constitution , the Supremacy Clause.
 
Yes, it is. You are being disingenuous to a fault and being an immoral hypocrite when Corporate Welfare is alive and well and has even paid multimillion dollar bonuses. Right wingers only seem to complain about the Poor while seeming to be cronies for the Rich.

Since there's no such thing as corporate welfare, you blaming the successful in society for the failures of the weak is a sign of your immoral hypocrisy.
 
Your line of reasoning seems very disingenuous, at best. It is immoral to complain about the Cost of social services and the Taxes you have to pay for naturally born citizens of our Republic, y'all insist on.

It is immoral to expect others to pay for choices related to something someone says is their sole choice. Abortion is legal. What that means is any child born happens as a result of the pregnant woman making the choice. That means it's her responsibility to pay for that choice.
 
Since there's no such thing as corporate welfare, you blaming the successful in society for the failures of the weak is a sign of your immoral hypocrisy.
Yeah, right. It was the right wing who came up with black codes because they were so, superior.
 
It is immoral to expect others to pay for choices related to something someone says is their sole choice. Abortion is legal. What that means is any child born happens as a result of the pregnant woman making the choice. That means it's her responsibility to pay for that choice.
Right wingers only allege to be for natural rights in abortion threads where they can tell women what to do. Nothing but tyrants.
 
Republicans have recently claimed that the Constitution allows the government to force publishers to publish things. The publishers also have to pay politician book authors large amounts of money for these books.

I always thought one of the freedoms of the press was the freedom not to publish something. If a book publisher does not want to publish a book, they are free to not publish the book. They do have to pay the contractual obligations, but not the full advance. Likewise, Twitter does not have to publish trump's anti-American tweets.

There are more possible internet addresses than there are atoms in the universe. You want to setup your own servers, go ahead and do it.

Data scientist Rebekah Jones did just that. First Republicans tried to get her deplatformed, but she had her own server. Then they tried to get internet service cutoff to her home, but could not do that legally. Finally, they sent police into her home to threaten her family, and steal her server... And she bought new server. A server costs less than a thousand dollars.

Look! An idiot commie scum OP!

I knew this was going to be a problem when Google and Amazon were buying up servers that all the internet traffics through back in 2009.
Just as I knew GoDaddy would be a problem when they were buying up domains.
It was folly to give 1 or 2 entities that much control of the internet.
 
I don't believe the Founding Fathers would support Corporations over the 1 st amendment.

Early USA history was a lot stricter on corporate charters.

https://reclaimdemocracy.org/corporate-accountability-history-corporations-us/

Initially, the privilege of incorporation was granted selectively to enable activities that benefited the public, such as construction of roads or canals. Enabling shareholders to profit was seen as a means to that end. The states also imposed conditions (some of which remain on the books, though unused) like these*:

Corporate charters (licenses to exist) were granted for a limited time and could be revoked promptly for violating laws.
Corporations could engage only in activities necessary to fulfill their chartered purpose.
Corporations could not own stock in other corporations nor own any property that was not essential to fulfilling their chartered purpose.
Corporations were often terminated if they exceeded their authority or caused public harm.
Owners and managers were responsible for criminal acts committed on the job.
Corporations could not make any political or charitable contributions nor spend money to influence law-making.
For 100 years after the American Revolution, legislators maintained tight control of the corporate chartering process. Because of widespread public opposition, early legislators granted very few corporate charters, and only after debate. Citizens governed corporations by detailing operating conditions not just in charters but also in state constitutions and state laws. Incorporated businesses were prohibited from taking any action that legislators did not specifically allow.

https://hbr.org/2010/04/what-the-founding-fathers-real.html

We don’t really begin to see economic enterprises chartered as corporations until the 1790s. Some are banks, others are companies that were going to build canals, turnpikes, and bridges — infrastructure projects that states did not have the money to build themselves. Citizens petitioned legislators for a corporate charter, and if a critical mass of political pressure could build in a capital, they got an act of incorporation. It specified their capitalization limitations, limited their lifespan, and dictated the boundaries of their operations and functions.
I should add, too, that as part of this effort to democratize corporations, state charters specifically spelled out how shareholder elections were to be conducted to choose directors. Corporations were supposed to resemble small republics, with directors balancing interests among shareholders. When they printed material or conducted correspondence, it was usually in the name of the “President, Directors, and Shareholders of the X Company.”

A couple months ago the Supreme Court ruled that restricting corporate political spending amounted to restricting free speech. In this view, corporations are pretty much equivalent to people. Would that have seemed reasonable to the Founding Fathers?

In a word, no.

I read this opinion carefully — I’m trained as a historian, not a lawyer. Chief Justice Roberts lays out an ideologically pure view of corporations as associations of citizens — leveling differences between companies, schools and other groups. So in his view Boeing is no different from Harvard, which is no different from the NAACP, or Citizens United, or my local neighborhood civic association. It’s lovely prose, but as a matter of history the majority is simply wrong.

Let me put it this way: the Founders did not confuse Boston’s Sons of Liberty with the British East India Company. They could distinguish among different varieties of association — and they understood that corporate personhood was a legal fiction that was limited to a courtroom. It wasn’t literal. Corporations could not vote or hold office. They held property, and to enable a shifting group of shareholders to hold that property over time and to sue and be sued in court, they were granted this fictive personhood in a limited legal context.

Early Americans had a far more comprehensive and nuanced understanding of corporations than the Court gives them credit for. They were much more comfortable with retaining pre-Revolutionary city or school charters than with creating new corporations that would concentrate economic and political power in potentially unaccountable institutions. When you read Madison in particular, you see that he wasn’t blindly hostile to banks during his fight with Alexander Hamilton over the Bank of the United States. Instead, he’s worried about the unchecked power of accumulations of capital that come with creating a class of bankers.
 
Republicans have recently claimed that the Constitution allows the government to force publishers to publish things. The publishers also have to pay politician book authors large amounts of money for these books.

I always thought one of the freedoms of the press was the freedom not to publish something. If a book publisher does not want to publish a book, they are free to not publish the book. They do have to pay the contractual obligations, but not the full advance. Likewise, Twitter does not have to publish trump's anti-American tweets.

There are more possible internet addresses than there are atoms in the universe. You want to setup your own servers, go ahead and do it.

Data scientist Rebekah Jones did just that. First Republicans tried to get her deplatformed, but she had her own server. Then they tried to get internet service cutoff to her home, but could not do that legally. Finally, they sent police into her home to threaten her family, and steal her server... And she bought new server. A server costs less than a thousand dollars.

But u A OK forcing a baker to bake a fagg cake
 
Right wingers only allege to be for natural rights in abortion threads where they can tell women what to do. Nothing but tyrants.

I don't care what she does as long as she, not those she told to butt out of her choice, pays for the choices she makes.
 
Yeah, right. It was the right wing who came up with black codes because they were so, superior.

No, it was to show those that didn't believe them they were.

Seems blacks support things like affirmative action because they know content of character doesn't match up to whites.
 
I knew this was going to be a problem when Google and Amazon were buying up servers that all the internet traffics through back in 2009.

All the traffic of the internet does not go through a few servers. Could you mean switches, and routers? But even there, Google and Amazon does not control many of those. More importantly there is very little that you can do with control of switches and routers.

Servers cost $250 or so(in bulk, and used servers are basically worthless. I very much doubt Google and Amazon would waste money buying used servers. They are working hard to buy new servers to provide services from, but your post has no meaning.

What Google and Amazon do is offer cheap, effective service to provide servers. If you want to host a website on a server, they do a great job. But if they don't want to do it, there are plenty of other server providers willing to host your website... OR, you can host it yourself. There are more addresses on the internet than there are atoms in the universe, so it is a resource that

It was folly to give 1 or 2 entities that much control of the internet.

Amazon, Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. do not have control over the internet. They have control over the social networks. You are free to Twitter twitter whenever you want, but you lose connection to all the people who use Twitter. If they all leave at once, then the social network company loses everything. Just ask Yahoo, MySpace, ICQ, etc.

The point here is the users are in control.

Now I am a big fan of interoperability, which would allow you to leave Twitter, but keep your Twitter followers. That would increase the competitiveness.

But, Republican demands that government be allowed to control all social networks does nothing to increase competitiveness, and is very anti-free expression.
 
this case is more nuanced.

if you sell yourself as a platform, and seek 230 immunity from prosecution ever, you are now a platform.

rebekah jones is not in this category. and she should not have beeen harrased, however, you cannot use this case to justify Twitter and facebook censorship.

Agreed, that censorship is justified on its own terms.
 
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