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The Almighty
With Gingrich as part of the ticket, I agree. No chance. I wouldn't mind a combo of Romney and Cain though.
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With Gingrich as part of the ticket, I agree. No chance. I wouldn't mind a combo of Romney and Cain though.
icedancer2theend
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That arms sales experience has come in handy with his Fast and Furious program
Ouch~
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
regardless of who the Republican candidates are, Obama will not win as many electoral states as he did in 2008.......
You have a fundamental misunderstanding about racism and sexism. Discussing racism and sexism is not racist or sexist in and of its self. Acknoledging racism and sexism is not racist or sexist in and of its self. Discussing the effects of racism and sexism is not in and of itself racist or sexist.
cawacko
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Please explain how Bachmann is Perry.
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The Almighty
No, I do not.
True. No one stated otherwise. You, however, were nut discussing racism or sexism in the quote I mentioned. You were insinuating that Reps were racists and thus would never elect Cain. YOU were focused on his race and trying to project your views onto 'the other party'.
Again both of those are true. I stated nothing that would contradict them. So why are you bringing them up?
Saying 'they won't vote for him because he is black and they are racists' is not the same as discussing racism. You are projecting your views onto 'the other' party.
brazenhussy
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Not only won't they elect Cain, they're not going to elect a woman either. This is all window dressing. Ain't gonna happen. What else is there to say? Nothing! LOL
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The Almighty
Obviously the Dems will never elect a woman.... just look at 2008.... Hillary was by far the more qualified... yet the Dems ran to the man.... scared of the lil woman.
I was pointing out and discussing what I belive to be caused by racism and sexism. You can disagree, but that does not make me a racist.
Obviously the Dems will never elect a woman.... just look at 2008.... Hillary was by far the more qualified... yet the Dems ran to the man.... scared of the lil woman.
I agree that was part of it, but the other part was simply Clinton fatigue. I dont agree that Hillary was by far more qualified, how so?
BTW, please note I did not call you a sexist for the above comment.
brazenhussy
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Obviously the Dems will never elect a woman.... just look at 2008.... Hillary was by far the more qualified... yet the Dems ran to the man.... scared of the lil woman.
Sexism on the left played a huge role in that. When have you ever seen me deny sexism on the left? Not likely!
But Palin and Bachman are just fronts, they'll never be nominated, and the republican party is not going to elect a black man for, well, I really don't know how long, but I may not live to see it. Sometimes I wonder when we will have the second black president anyway, from either party.
As for a woman, I used to fear, post-Hillary, that the Republicans were going to get some anti-woman asshole in there, riding in on feminist gains while denouncing us all the way. Now i see that's not going to happen. Of course, when I think about MS. Warren my heart does go pitter-pat. Maybe a woman president, I will live to see...
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As Texas Gov. Rick Perry deals with the fallout from the revelation that his family leases a hunting camp called "Niggerhead," Herman Cain is facing his own backlash—for suggesting that the Perrys' conduct was "insensitive."
According to the Washington Post, Perry's family leased a piece of land referred to by local residents as "Niggerhead"; the word is carved into a rock at the entrance of the property.
The rock was painted over sometime after the Perry family began renting the property in the 1980s, although the offending word is still "faintly visible."
Locals interviewed by the Post provided comic rationalizations for why the name isn't offensive. Haskell County Judge David Davis told the paper, "It's just a name…Like those are vertical blinds. It's just what it was called."
Herman Cain, appearing on ABC's This Week, offered Perry the most mild of rebukes considering he's old enough to recall what life was like when segregation was the law of the land.
"I think that it shows a lack of sensitivity for a long time of not taking that word off of that rock and renaming the place," he said.
Wrong answer, Herman.
You might have anticipated that Perry would face a firestorm for being associated with the property, but it's Cain whose remarks are drawing the most criticism from the right.
Over at the Daily Caller, Matt Lewis called Cain's remarks "a cheap shot, and, perhaps a signal that Cain is willing to play the race card against a fellow Republican when it benefits him."
The key phrase here is "fellow Republican."
Because, you see, no one thought Cain was "playing the race card" when he said in the same program that black people are "brainwashed" into voting for Democrats and suggested that black people who vote Republican are "thinking for themselves."
Cain wasn't rebuked by conservatives when he previously suggested President Barack Obama was not "a strong black man," implied liberals were out to commit genocide against blacks through support for abortion rights, and said he wouldn't appoint a Muslim to his cabinet.
None of that, in the eyes of the conservatives who cheered him for those remarks, constituted "playing the race card."
But when a man who is old enough to recall living under American apartheid gets a little emotional over a piece of land called "Niggerhead," that's where the right draws the line.
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011...ad-controversy
According to the Washington Post, Perry's family leased a piece of land referred to by local residents as "Niggerhead"; the word is carved into a rock at the entrance of the property.
The rock was painted over sometime after the Perry family began renting the property in the 1980s, although the offending word is still "faintly visible."
Locals interviewed by the Post provided comic rationalizations for why the name isn't offensive. Haskell County Judge David Davis told the paper, "It's just a name…Like those are vertical blinds. It's just what it was called."
Herman Cain, appearing on ABC's This Week, offered Perry the most mild of rebukes considering he's old enough to recall what life was like when segregation was the law of the land.
"I think that it shows a lack of sensitivity for a long time of not taking that word off of that rock and renaming the place," he said.
Wrong answer, Herman.
You might have anticipated that Perry would face a firestorm for being associated with the property, but it's Cain whose remarks are drawing the most criticism from the right.
Over at the Daily Caller, Matt Lewis called Cain's remarks "a cheap shot, and, perhaps a signal that Cain is willing to play the race card against a fellow Republican when it benefits him."
The key phrase here is "fellow Republican."
Because, you see, no one thought Cain was "playing the race card" when he said in the same program that black people are "brainwashed" into voting for Democrats and suggested that black people who vote Republican are "thinking for themselves."
Cain wasn't rebuked by conservatives when he previously suggested President Barack Obama was not "a strong black man," implied liberals were out to commit genocide against blacks through support for abortion rights, and said he wouldn't appoint a Muslim to his cabinet.
None of that, in the eyes of the conservatives who cheered him for those remarks, constituted "playing the race card."
But when a man who is old enough to recall living under American apartheid gets a little emotional over a piece of land called "Niggerhead," that's where the right draws the line.
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011...ad-controversy
brazenhussy
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It's true that the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton merry-go-round did play a role too.
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Because the GOP is stacking the deck in PA?
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The Almighty
Please note, I did not call you a racist.... I said you were focused on his race and not on his policies as you proclaimed.
As for Hillary, you have to be kidding....
She was a very active first Lady both domestically and overseas, she was a US Senator 6 years longer than Obama, she actually HAD foreign policy experience.... it isn't even close.... Obama was elected Senator, voted present a couple of times and then began campaigning for President less than a year after entering the Senate.
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It is practically impossible, especially since Cain has not clearly indicated what programs he would cut to make up for the 50% or so decline in revenue. He also claims to want to balance the budget, so he'd have to cut the government by 2/3. Not even simply abolishing SS and Medicare/Medicaid would get him there. He's basically have the military and a handful of other programs.
cawacko
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Jarod, you claim it is sexism that Perry has higher poll numbers than Bachmann. You claim they are same yet you can't describe how they are the same because their resumes are completely different. Care to give it a shot?
How exciting would that be! Ms Warren makes me all excited, too!
So her experience as first lady counts as presidental experience? I agree, but thats not what conservatives were saying when it looked like she was going to be nominated.
brazenhussy
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LOL Excellent point!