CA Prop. 8 shot down

[WinterBorn]

If you are a "proud Christian", then please be aware that "Christian" is capitalized and "pride" is a sin. Jesus said marriage was between a man and a woman. If you're a Christian, they listen to your master.

I believe I have said that I have no problem with churches not allowing gay marriage. But the issue is the government, not the church.

Unlike you I do not try and create a gov't based on my faith. I understand that forcing people to live by my beliefs does not make them believe.

If my pride in my faith is a sin, I will surely be forgiven it. As for teh capitalization, lets not get too petty. Unless this is simply a way of dodging the topic?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

No, brown skin functions just like white skin. Brown skin is not a "significant deviation" from white skin. On the other hand heterosexual couplings are responsible for the perpetuation of the human species. Homosexual couplings are responsible for orgasms, over 50% of the HIV cases in the US and 10 years less life expectancy. A VERY significant deviation.

Would you care to show a scientific study that supports your numbers, regarding HIV and life expectancy?
Are you now saying that only those who take part in the perpetuation of the human speices are heterosexual; because it leaves out those who are steril or who choose to not have children.
By your narrow generalization you just reclassified a great number of people as NOT being heterosexual.

 

[Alias]

This is a typical rightwinger tactic. If someone disagrees with you, they must hate you , hate your religion and hate America.

Tell us why gay marriage would be bad for America, Alias. No beating around the bush, answer the simple question.

OH MY GOD

Read your own words......."If someone disagrees with you, they must hate you, hate your religion and hate America.

YOU are the one who called me a "HATER" and a "BIGOT" for disagreeing with YOU. There's a word for that. Do you know what it is?

 

[WinterBorn]

Read your own words......."If someone disagrees with you, they must hate you, hate your religion and hate America. YOU are the one who called me a "HATER" and a "BIGOT" for disagreeing with YOU. There's a word for that. Do you know what it is?

Oh no, Sparky, you can't turn that around. I am not trying to decide whether you can marry, teach school, or calling you names beyond what you have shown yourself to be. And I am also not trying to require that everyone live by my standards of morality.

I am not condemning entire groups of people based on what I deem acceptable.

You are doing all of those things.

So how about answering the question? Or do you not have an answer??

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Homosexual behavior occurs in nature. "Homosexuals" is purely a human invention

So is the term "heterosexual", so what's your point?

 

[Alias]

Jesus Los said the end of the world would happen in his disciples time and that dint happen, so Jesus can be wrong. Jesus also never condemned slavery.

LOL. Yes, Jesus is wrong and you are right. LOL. OH MY GOD

Your interpretation is wrong. That's all. Give us the passage of scripture you're speaking of.

 

[Alias]

Oh no, Sparky, you can't turn that around. I am not trying to decide whether you can marry, teach school, or calling you names beyond what you have shown yourself to be. And I am also not trying to require that everyone live by my standards of morality.

I am not condemning entire groups of people based on what I deem acceptable.

You are doing all of those things.

So how about answering the question? Or do you not have an answer??

You most certainly are condemning an entire group of people. The people who don't believe in Queer marriage are being labeled by you as "HATERS and BIGOTS". Now you're lying. That's also a sin, Mr. Christian.

 

[dixon76710]

Homosexuality is perversion. The definition of perversion is whatever is out of the norm. Humans are normally heterosexual. Homosexuality in humans has always been considered perverse and unacceptable because of our founding Christian/Judeo principles and culture. The last 40 years have been a constant drumbeat to accept homosexuality as normal or be considered a bigot. Not buying it.

You have the right to be homosexual in the USA. I have no problem with that. I have a problem with teaching children that it is normal. Get that crap out of our schools.

You have the right to hate whomever you choose. But our government does not have the right to discriminate based on a single religion. The sooner you understand that the better off you will be.

"Hate"??? What hate? You probably dont want children being taught his christian values in school. Wouldnt that make you a hater of christians by that logic?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Being born Native Hawaiian can't be helped. You have not established homosexuality as a civil rights issue. First you would have to establish that they are born that way. There is no evidence for that. Humans are born male and female, not homosexual or heterosexual. A false premise that has been used by the progressives for quite a while now.

You also can't prove that they weren't born that way.
That's why they call science an imperfect art; because it constantly changes.

Are you aware that a scientist can prove that bumble bees are unable to fly; because of their body mass compared to their wing size?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

??? And they didnt work because interracial couples function just like same race couples. They are NOT a significant deviation but instead an irrelevant deviation. Children of interracial couples benefit equally from the governmental entitlements of marriage, as the children of same race children. Government has just as much interest in the wellbeing of interracial children as they do same race children.

Are you attempting to say that the Government has no interest in the well being of children being raised by homosexuals; because that would be discrimination?

 

[WinterBorn]

Tell us why gay marriage would be bad for America, Alias. No beating around the bush, answer the simple question.

 

[WinterBorn]

You most certainly are condemning an entire group of people. The people who don't believe in Queer marriage are being labeled by you as "HATERS and BIGOTS". Now you're lying. That's also a sin, Mr. Christian.

I call people who hate "Haters". That is the truth. You have demonstrated ample hatred for gays.

 

[WinterBorn]

"Hate"??? What hate? You probably dont want children being taught his christian values in school. Wouldnt that make you a hater of christians by that logic?

If it is a private school I have no problem with it. But I recognize the wisdom of the US Constitution in not allowing a single state sponsored religion.

I am a Christian (better alias?) who sees that the law is what it is and should not be changed. If I can share my faith with someone I will do so. I live my life by the standards of my faith. I do not require that of people who do not share my faith.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

If you are a "proud Christian", then please be aware that "Christian" is capitalized and "pride" is a sin. Jesus said marriage was between a man and a woman. If you're a Christian, they listen to your master.

Since there is to be a seperation between Church and State, then the Government has right to deny homosexuals the right to marry; seeing as how you're basing your entire argument on religion.

I'm glad that we've got that point settled.

 

[Alias]

You also can't prove that they weren't born that way.
That's why they call science an imperfect art; because it constantly changes.

Are you aware that a scientist can prove that bumble bees are unable to fly; because of their body mass compared to their wing size?

That's fair. So stop saying homosexuals are born that way. Look at your birth certificate. Does it say you sex is male/female or does it say homosexual/heterosexual?

 

[Alias]

Since there is to be a seperation between Church and State, then the Government has right to deny homosexuals the right to marry; seeing as how you're basing your entire argument on religion.

I'm glad that we've got that point settled.

The term "seperation of church and state" is not in the US Constitution. It's' in the Communist Manifesto. The US Constitution says congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion, yet Christians are being restricted every day in their religious freedom.

 

[Alias]

If it is a private school I have no problem with it. But I recognize the wisdom of the US Constitution in not allowing a single state sponsored religion.

I am a Christian (better alias?) who sees that the law is what it is and should not be changed. If I can share my faith with someone I will do so. I live my life by the standards of my faith. I do not require that of people who do not share my faith.

Are you okay with children bowing their heads VOLUNTARILY at school and praying? Some people aren't.

Care to comment on the words of Jesus, your Lord? He said marriage is between a man and a woman. How do you get around that as a Christian?

 

[WinterBorn]

The term "seperation of church and state" is not in the US Constitution. It's' in the Communist Manifesto. The US Constitution says congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion, yet Christians are being restricted every day in their religious freedom.

How are they being prohibited from free exercise of our religion?

 

[WinterBorn]

Are you okay with children bowing their heads VOLUNTARILY at school and praying? Some people aren't.

Care to comment on the words of Jesus, your Lord? He said marriage is between a man and a woman. How do you get around that as a Christian?

I am fine with it. I also know that when I pray silently my prayer is heard just as though I were screaming it at the top of my lungs.

Since I am not planning on marrying a man, I don't see it as an issue.


How do you reconcile that you are wanting to base laws solely on one religion?


And why are you scared to answer my other question?

 

[WinterBorn]

That's fair. So stop saying homosexuals are born that way. Look at your birth certificate. Does it say you sex is male/female or does it say homosexual/heterosexual?

My birth certificate also doesn't say I have brown hair, astigmatism, or that I am partly colorblind. But those are all things I was born with.