Birtherism Is Dead. Long Live Birtherism.

Damocles said:
By creating a head and then bursting it, Trump has done the republican that will actually run against Obama a huge favor, this will long have died down by then.
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Maybe, but it also might hurt the Republicans creditability because the first salvo of this campaign was such a rediclous issue pushed by the Republicans. If President Obama can tie this to the Republicans party in general as opposed to Trump it will boost his creditability when calling out silly arguments and conspiracy theories.
 
Also, if there was anything to the Social Security number or the College records, those crusades are now done!
 
christiefan915 said:
Yeah, "nationality or political party or education or parents, or even such stupidity as "Obama rhymes with Osama" are all code words for race in your pea brain.

You and yurt are hell-bent on denying the birthers could have any ulterior motives, despite the myriad articles, videos, blogs, pictures, etc. showing otherwise.

Like I said, shallow, uncritical and completely lacking introspection.
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Incidentally....we've already established that it was your fellow Democrat, Philip Berg, that gave birth to the birthers.....even Chris Matthews became one....

And now that Obama refuses to release any of his college records as Bush did...some group or groups will be demanding those records too be made public...
Like said, tell folks they can't have something and they will desire it even more.......
And your narrow minded race baiting becomes even more apparent to us moderates....
 
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Jarod said:
Maybe, but it also might hurt the Republicans creditability because the first salvo of this campaign was such a rediclous issue pushed by the Republicans. If President Obama can tie this to the Republicans party in general as opposed to Trump it will boost his creditability when calling out silly arguments and conspiracy theories.
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With ms media in their pockets as it is, the Dems should have no problem establishing that lie as truth.....its already apparent on MSNBC and picking up on NBC and CBS
 
How is it a lie when he is the current front runner for the Republican nomination...?
 
bravo said:
Incidentally....we've already established that it was your fellow Democrat, Philip Berg, that gave birth to the birthers.....even Chris Matthews became one....

And now that Obama refuses to release any of his college records as Bush did...some group or groups will be demanding those records too be made public...
Like said, tell folks they can't have something and they will desire it even more.......
And your narrow minded race baiting becomes even more apparent to us moderates....
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Why do you want to see his college records?
 
bravo said:
Jughead, even YOU could run for the Republican nomination....whats your point ?
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I usually do not engage you in any conversation simply because you often pretend to not have seen what I wrote.... I did not say he was running for the Republican nomination, I said he is the current front runner for the Republican nomination.

Big difference...
 
No....I think they were probably created by lefties as a way to smear the right....

They did such an excellent job doing the same thing with Bush for 8 years....the very same thing...

You're not implying people like Chris Matthews would photo shop this stuff are you??....but then, thats exactly who you are accusing aren't you.....
 
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Jarod said:
I usually do not engage you in any conversation simply because you often pretend to not have seen what I wrote.... I did not say he was running for the Republican nomination, I said he is the current front runner for the Republican nomination.

Big difference...
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Well, if you would get your information from other than CNN, NBC, Jon Stewart or Ed Shultz and Maddow, you wouldn't make such nutty claims....

Watch who is never , or at least seldom mentioned as a likely Republican nominee...that would be a better clue as to who is the viable choice....
 
christiefan915 said:
I find it mind boggling that nobody will say flat out what it is about Obama that makes them so suspicious.

They all fall back on the "what": "We're suspicious because it took him three years to release the long form."

They all ignore the "why": "Why does Obama have to meet a different standard than all presidents before him? Why does he have to release what no other president had to release?"
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Because they all know if they speak the truth they will forever be branded as racists.
 
bravo said:
Well, if you would get your information from other than CNN, NBC, Jon Stewart or Ed Shultz and Maddow, you wouldn't make such nutty claims....

Watch who is never , or at least seldom mentioned as a likely Republican nominee...that would be a better clue as to who is the viable choice....
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How is it a lie when he is the current front runner for the Republican nomination...?
The polls dont come from any of the sources you mentioned above.
 
christiefan915 said:
More ad homs? <snicker> Don't forget "dishonest", "hackery", "false correlation", "failure", "good lord" and all the rest of your standard daily insults.

It's getting harder and harder to understand your semi-coherent posts. Maybe you should take a deep breath and really think before you type.

If anybody jumps to produce the race card, it's you. It's the first thing out of you when we criticize birthers, and it's because you're shallow, lack introspection and are only capable of spouting the conservative line rather than thinking for yourself.

If birthers truly examined and brought to light their motives, the BC wouldn't even figure. It's about race or nationality or political party or education or parents, or even such stupidity as "Obama rhymes with Osama". It's about what's going on deep in their psyches, not the birth certificate. It's only dumb asses like you that raised that piece of paper to icon status.

Grow a brain already.
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why don't you apologize for your lies?

and christie....tell me...why do YOU think they are suspicious of obama?
 
Yurt said:
why don't you apologize for your lies?

and christie....tell me...why do YOU think they are suspicious of obama?
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It's about party and politics. The goal is to make the enemy different from us. They did it with Clinton, too. Race isn't why they do it, it's just how they do it with Obama.
 
Watching the birthers/oathers/neocons/teabaggers/libertarians and similar intellectually dishonest and cowardly off-shoots of "conservatism" whirl like dervishes to deal with Obama's touche move is hysterical. Just a few points:

- Yeah, we know that Hillary wonk Berg started this shit....but AFTER Obama won the election, it should have been over...especially after the higher courts kicked his dopey ass to the curb. Instead, the neocon driven GOP and it's punditry picked up the gauntlet and ran crazy with it. DESPITE producing a STATE APPROVED short form, the "birthers" were NOT satisfied (forget the vast majority of the birther bumpkins carry ONLY an OFFICIAL COPY of their birth cerificate...which makes them absurd hypocrits), and kept up the silliness for 2 years! Yep, the Dept. of Motor Vehicles in two states, the State Dept., the FBI, the Secret Service, The State of Hawaii and two Hawaiian newspapers 50 years ago weren't good enough for the birther bumpkins.

- the birthers/oathers/neocons/teabaggers/libertarians and similar intellectually dishonest and cowardly off-shoots of "conservatism" seem not to care that their lord the Shrub's family has a history of being in bed with the Saudis (home of Bin Ladin and the majority of the 9/1 terrorists), and his grand pappy had NO problem doing business with the Nazis....yet their suspicion of Obama goes beyond rationality to obsession.

- the birthers/oathers/neocons/teabaggers/libertarians and similar intellectually dishonest and cowardly off-shoots of "conservatism" have an amazing quality to blame others for their faults while NEVER admitting error. For the last 2 years, proof beyond doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii has been presented....which they just rejected. But the sheer absurdity of the birthers was beginning to tell on the GOP....as Boehner copped that if the President and Hawaii says he's a citizen, it was good enough for him....and even wingnut Ann Coulter stated that the issue was dead and people should "move on". Enter party switching ego-maniac and jumped up slumlord Donald Trump, who blasts the media with this nonsense, making all types of outrageous claims....and showing (again) to the world just how stupid the birthers are.

- Obama makes a masterful chess move.....calling out the alleged MSM, Dems, GOP and "carnival barkers" for this birther bullshit when REAL problems are on the table (budget proposals)....and although he didn't have to, gets the State of Hawaii to release his long form. Case closed....but the birthers/oathers/neocons/teabaggers/libertarians and similar intellectually dishones and cowardly off-shoots of "conservatism" just can't admit they were wrong....so now it's Obama's fault for "dragging this out", and using this as a political ploy! :confused: Once again, the birthers take leave of reality.

- Next up for the birthers/oathers/neocons/teabaggers/libertarians and similar intellectually dishonest and cowardly off-shoots of "conservatism"....Obama's academic records from grade school on up, is he still smoking weed, and why won't he call himself "half black". ;)
 
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