Biden Plans Cuba Reset

I'd say it makes no difference. Cuba is an irrelevance. It's less important than say, Panama. Cuba has nothing the US needs as imports and isn't much of an export market because it's all but broke.

Well a lot of people seem to like their cigars. But either way, other countries doing well is good for America. So we shouldn't embargo a country that we don't have to.
 
60 years is a long time to cling to a grudge that American mafia and corporate interests lost their profitable gigs back in the mid-20th century.

I dunno - think of the length of time the oil companies have been spiting Iran for taking back their own oil! Overthrowing their democracy and setting up the Shah was never enough!
 
Cuba is still an enemy of the United States, not an ally. Cuba continues to provide support for State enemies of the U.S., like the Maduro gov't.

We use Trade policy to keep the threat small and contained.

Maybe if we stopped trying to overturn the Maduro government, they'd stop being our enemy.
 
I dunno - think of the length of time the oil companies have been spiting Iran for taking back their own oil! Overthrowing their democracy and setting up the Shah was never enough!

Understood, but at least oil is a critical geopolitical strategic resource.

The fact that American mafia lost their Havana casino concessions, and American sugar companies had their plantations nationalized does not warrant a 60 grudge in my opinion.

Most of us here weren't even born when the Mafia and Sugar companies lost their gigs in Cuba.
 
and we did the same fomenting a revolution in Ukraine.
Nobody has clean hands for Ukraine, but we are sucked into the Donbass war anyhow

Big difference between helping along a revolution in another country, and actually invading another country.
 
Maybe if we stopped trying to overturn the Maduro government, they'd stop being our enemy.
the problem is Cuba and Russia to some extent and China all act to keep Maduro in Office
He's been a disaster -worse then Chavez -and people are fleeing Venez.
 
Big difference between helping along a revolution in another country, and actually invading another country.
not when we meddle and foment a revolution on Russia's border.

Not only that -since Ukraine is split pro-west (Kyiv faction) and pro-Russian ( Donbass etc)
we installed a pro-Kyiv faction hostile to Russia

We created (proximate cause) of the annexation of Crimea, and the Donbass war
 
the problem is Cuba and Russia to some extent and China all act to keep Maduro in Office
He's been a disaster -worse then Chavez -and people are fleeing Venez.

But he was democratically elected. So we should probably stop trying to sabotage him.
 
But he was democratically elected. So we should probably stop trying to sabotage him.
Monroe Doctrine in play here with China and Iran etc meddling in our hemisphere.

I agree to no meddling, but we are past that.. Maduro has to go because it's people are physically suffering
 
not when we meddle and foment a revolution on Russia's border.

Not only that -since Ukraine is split pro-west (Kyiv faction) and pro-Russian ( Donbass etc)
we installed a pro-Kyiv faction hostile to Russia

We created (proximate cause) of the annexation of Crimea, and the Donbass war

But we did all that with the consent of the Ukrainian government. We didn't break international law like Russia did when they invaded.
 
Russia is still violating international rules, such as invading Ukraine.
But really, this is just a #deflection because you can't defend the Cuba embargo.

International scrutiny
Cuba remained the only country in the Americas that Amnesty International and most other independent human rights monitors were not allowed to visit to carry out human rights monitoring.

Repression of dissent
Cuba’s new administration continued to use a range of different mechanisms of control to repress critical voices and dissent.[1]

In February, according to the Open Observatory of Network Interference (OONI), the Cuban authorities blocked several independent media websites during the constitutional referendum and began to use more sophisticated online censorship techniques.

In September, according to news reports, Twitter temporarily suspended the accounts of several state officials, including that of former president Raúl Castro, and other state-run media outlets. While the Cuban authorities accused Twitter of censorship, Twitter pointed to its rules that prohibit the amplification or disruption of (online) conversations using multiple accounts. The move came amid ongoing reports by independent Cuban bloggers and media that the Cuban authorities utilize fake accounts and bots to control online debates.

While independent media projects continued to operate, those working at alternative online news sources were at risk of harassment and arbitrary detention. In October, over a dozen independent Cuban media sites issued a statement calling for an end to a “wave of repression” against the independent press.

Meanwhile, throughout the year, the authorities harassed and detained independent artists opposing Decree 349, a dystopian law approved in April 2018 that requires artists to seek prior approval to carry out their work.

In October, José Daniel Ferrer García, leader of the unofficial political opposition group Patriotic Union of Cuba (UNPACU) was detained and remained in prison at the end of the year, provoking international criticism.[2]

Prisoners of conscience
Just over a year after President Miguel Díaz-Canel assumed office, the NGO Cuban Prisoners Defenders, which has connections to UNPACU, claimed that at least 71 people were imprisoned on politically motivated charges.

In August, after reviewing just a handful those cases, Amnesty International named five people prisoners of conscience detained solely for their participation in political opposition groups not recognized by the authorities. They were all charged with offences that are not internationally recognizable – such as “contempt” or “dangerousness” – or which have been used for decades in Cuba to silence critical voices.[3]

In September, Roberto Quiñones Haces, a journalist with the independent newspaper Cubanet, was convicted of resistance and disobedience and sentenced to one year in prison. He is a prisoner of conscience detained solely for exercising his right to freedom of expression[4]. The Committee to Protect Journalists and the human rights organization Article 19 also condemned his imprisonment.

Economic, social and cultural rights
Against this backdrop of repression, and in the context of the Trump administration’s renewed tightening of the US economic embargo, coupled with reduced financial aid from Cuba’s key ally Venezuela, economic hardship on the island intensified, according to media reports.

By the end of the year, Cubans were living with scarcity of food, medicines and fuel. Many commentators compared the situation to the economic crisis referred to as the “Special Period” of the 1990s, which coincided with the collapse of the former Soviet Union.

[1] ‘We are continuity’: What the president’s hashtag tells us about human rights in Cuba today (News story, 14 August 2019).

[2] Cuba: Opposition leader detained (AMR 25/1163/2019)

[3] Cuba: A snapshot of prisoners of conscience under the government of President Miguel Diaz-Canel (AMR 25/0936/2019)

[4] Cuba: Independent Journalist Arrested (AMR 25/1047/2019)



https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/americas/cuba/report-cuba/
 
But we did all that with the consent of the Ukrainian government. We didn't break international law like Russia did when they invaded.
there was no "consent" - we fomented AGAINST the existing government of the time. Yanukovych fled Kyiv
(which also undermined Obama's 'Russia Reset' -undone by his own State Dept.)
 
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