Are the Democrats trying to get Trump reelected?

Of course not! He was pro-globalization because it was pro-free market and pro-profits for corporations.

Not sure what he thinks Trump or the GOP can do to reverse globalization. They're not very realistic people with realistic ideas.

I was against it before trump. im not a republican. im an indepenent.
 
wrong. intelligent individuals from around the world are noticing the great flaws in globalist zealotry. it's a reasonable and overriding concern for thoughtful individuals.

It's hard to reconcile your hatred for globalism as you support a guy whose family takes advantage of that globalism to become even wealthier. Like Ivanka's East Asian sweatshops and deals with the Chinese government.
 
Well, you're half-right.

I don't care about "winning" or whatever that is supposed to mean. What I care about is whether or not American workers can subsist on wages without getting any kind of government assistance. The free market has failed in that regard, IMO. What I also care about is that service workers, particularly those in home health care, are paid a living wage so that they don't have to rely on assistance programs to bridge the gap between the wage they get for thankless work, and what they need to survive.




And you think Trump, the guy who gets money only from one German bank and who has global deals (including global deals for his kids, like Ivanka's East Asian sweatshops), is the one to stick his neck out for you and your concerns?

Take a second and really consider that.

so are dems the more sincere anti-globalists?
 
I was against it before trump. im not a republican. im an indepenent.

You're an independent who just so happens to agree 100% with the policies of Trump and Conservatism.

There is no way we are going to reverse the globalism trend. And slowing it down only prolongs pain for those at the bottom.

You are going to have to face facts that the economy has changed, and the jobs you typically thought weren't working class -home health care, fast food, retail, customer service, call centers, shipping fulfillment- are, in fact, the new working class.
 
It's hard to reconcile your hatred for globalism as you support a guy whose family takes advantage of that globalism to become even wealthier. Like Ivanka's East Asian sweatshops and deals with the Chinese government.

we've been through this already....

you can be a business owner and still see flaws in globalist policy.

you're already recycling logical fallacies.
 
so are dems the more sincere anti-globalists?

You need to get "globalists" out of your head, since it's a broad, loaded term that doesn't really explain the specifics and/or nuance of your position.

I think it's hard for people to accept that the economy has transitioned, and the jobs we typically thought of as working class jobs are not the same as they were 30, 40, 50 years ago.

The service economy is what we have now, and that is not going to change. So we must be agile and adapt to the new economic realities, and treat service jobs as the new working class.
 
You're an independent who just so happens to agree 100% with the policies of Trump and Conservatism.

There is no way we are going to reverse the globalism trend. And slowing it down only prolongs pain for those at the bottom.

You are going to have to face facts that the economy has changed, and the jobs you typically thought weren't working class -home health care, fast food, retail, customer service, call centers, shipping fulfillment- are, in fact, the new working class.

ah, if only you dictated reality.... you don't by the way. Globalist stupidity is being reversed all around the world, you're going to have to face that. you will sleep better. sometimes the wealthy world can be new and scary, and we just have to lean in, and not retreat in fear.
 
you can be a business owner and still see flaws in globalist polic

See the flaws, or outright take advantage of them?

I can "see" things too. Everyone with two (or one) working eyes can see things. It's how you utilize those things. Saying you're anti-globalist doesn't mean anything when you advance globalist policies for yourself.

He's ginning up your outrage over market forces that are out of our control.

Factory jobs aren't coming back. They're just not. Since they're not, we need to acknowledge the new working/middle class.
 
See the flaws, or outright take advantage of them?

I can "see" things too. Everyone with two (or one) working eyes can see things. It's how you utilize those things. Saying you're anti-globalist doesn't mean anything when you advance globalist policies for yourself.

He's ginning up your outrage over market forces that are out of our control.

Factory jobs aren't coming back. They're just not. Since they're not, we need to acknowledge the new working/middle class.

lol. nothing's out of control. we're turning back globalism, as humanity. you can lead, follow or get out of the way.
 
ah, if only you dictated reality.... you don't by the way

The service economy is our reality. I don't dictate anything. The economy we had 50 years ago is not an economy we will ever have again.


Globalist stupidity is being reversed all around the world, you're going to have to face that.

"Is being"...again with the present tenses that you use as temporary goalposts that you will eventually move.

We've heard that refrain from y'all the last 2 years and you haven't done shit except make things worse for farmers and consumers.

There exists not one single articulate anti-globalist policy because globalism isn't reversible.

I know you long for simpler times, because your simple mind takes comfort in the familiar and simplistic, but the reality is that we are not ever going to have "simple times" again.

If that bothers you so much, then drink a gallon of antifreeze, because nothing you people are doing now is helping. Not empty promises, not present tense "we are doing this...", nothing.
 
nothing's out of control

You cannot and do not control the invisible hand.


we're turning back globalism, as humanity.

...by speeding it up.

None of your policies have actually reversed globalist trends. In fact, your policies have sped them up...like imposing tariffs that resulted in a drop in demand for US soybeans, prompting a bailout.

I thought you all opposed bailouts!?


you can lead, follow or get out of the way.

You haven't and will never accomplish any of your goals because your goals are unrealistic, dumb, and counter to your free market ideology.
 
The service economy is our reality. I don't dictate anything. The economy we had 50 years ago is not an economy we will ever have again.




"Is being"...again with the present tenses that you use as temporary goalposts that you will eventually move.

We've heard that refrain from y'all the last 2 years and you haven't done shit except make things worse for farmers and consumers.

There exists not one single articulate anti-globalist policy because globalism isn't reversible.

I know you long for simpler times, because your simple mind takes comfort in the familiar and simplistic, but the reality is that we are not ever going to have "simple times" again.

If that bothers you so much, then drink a gallon of antifreeze, because nothing you people are doing now is helping. Not empty promises, not present tense "we are doing this...", nothing.

it totally is reversible. we're reversing it now. congratulations on understanding what tense is. you're so smart. now circle all the nouns.��
 
Name one! Name two if you can! LOL!

"is being"

"are noticing"

Notice how everything is in the present tense, currently happening? Nothing achieved, just things perpetually in the works...

It's an artificial and deliberate goalpost that will continually be shifted.
 
"is being"

"are noticing"

Notice how everything is in the present tense, currently happening? Nothing achieved, just things perpetually in the works...

It's an artificial and deliberate goalpost that will continually be shifted.

we're onto circling nouns now. please keep up with the class, sped.
 
it totally is reversible.

No, it isn't and there's no way to do it.


we're reversing it now.

"we are reversing"

Another present tense goalpost shift...that way, when someone holds you to this a few months from now, you will just simply repeat this mantra so that things are in a perpetual state of happening, right?

You're not very good at managing expectations.



congratulations on understanding what tense is. you're so smart. now circle all the nouns.��

The tense is important in this because rather than trumpet actual achievements and goals, you set expectations to be in a perpetual state of fluidity; what that means is that while you've accomplished nothing, you simply invoke the present tense as if you're working to something. The problem with that, though, is that "anti-globalism" isn't a goal, it's a feeling. What does "anti-globalism" look like? I don't know, but realistically, it doesn't look like what you want.
 
You need to get "globalists" out of your head, since it's a broad, loaded term that doesn't really explain the specifics and/or nuance of your position.

I think it's hard for people to accept that the economy has transitioned, and the jobs we typically thought of as working class jobs are not the same as they were 30, 40, 50 years ago.

The service economy is what we have now, and that is not going to change. So we must be agile and adapt to the new economic realities, and treat service jobs as the new working class.

You mean coal & steel jobs aren't really coming back?? wtf??

I thought they were building a large lunch-pail factory where the gm plant closed??
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we're onto circling nouns now. please keep up with the class, sped.

At some point, these currently happening things will have to come to a conclusion, right?

What does that conclusion actually look like? "Anti-globalism" isn't a policy platform, it's a feeling.
 
No, it isn't and there's no way to do it.




"we are reversing"

Another present tense goalpost shift...that way, when someone holds you to this a few months from now, you will just simply repeat this mantra so that things are in a perpetual state of happening, right?

You're not very good at managing expectations.





The tense is important in this because rather than trumpet actual achievements and goals, you set expectations to be in a perpetual state of fluidity; what that means is that while you've accomplished nothing, you simply invoke the present tense as if you're working to something. The problem with that, though, is that "anti-globalism" isn't a goal, it's a feeling. What does "anti-globalism" look like? I don't know, but realistically, it doesn't look like what you want.

no. the tense isnt important. that's just more of your made up horseshit.

do you have a link to your alleged fact that globalism isn't reversible? thought not. that's just a lie you believe and repeat.
 
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