American Indians

' Native ' by birth is NOT indigenous, you buttocks-clenched dumbasses.

Haw, haw.....................................haw.
 
moon said:
' Native ' by birth is NOT indigenous, you buttocks-clenched dumbasses.

Haw, haw.....................................haw.
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Untrue and this has been already debunked; which you can read in previous posts.

adjective

originating in and characteristic of a particular region or country; native (often followed by to):
the plants indigenous to Canada; the indigenous peoples of southern Africa.

innate; inherent; natural (usually followed by to):
feelings indigenous to human beings.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Untrue and this has been already debunked; which you can read in previous posts.

adjective

originating in and characteristic of a particular region or country; native (often followed by to):
the plants indigenous to Canada; the indigenous peoples of southern Africa.

innate; inherent; natural (usually followed by to):
feelings indigenous to human beings.
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European immigrants into North America were/are neither innate; inherent or natural . Native by birth does NOT equate to ' indigenous '
You'd be a fool to pursue the argument you've long-since lost.
Hey--- I should care ?

Haw, haw................................haw.
 
moon said:
European immigrants into North America were/are neither innate; inherent or natural . Native by birth does NOT equate to ' indigenous '
You'd be a fool to pursue the argument you've long-since lost.
Hey--- I should care ?

Haw, haw................................haw.
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Untrue and this has been already debunked; which you can read in previous posts.

adjective

originating in and characteristic of a particular region or country; native (often followed by to):
the plants indigenous to Canada; the indigenous peoples of southern Africa.

innate; inherent; natural (usually followed by to):
feelings indigenous to human beings.
 
moon said:
European immigrants into North America were/are neither innate; inherent or natural . Native by birth does NOT equate to ' indigenous '
You'd be a fool to pursue the argument you've long-since lost.
Hey--- I should care ?

Haw, haw................................haw.
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Yet the "indigenous" peoples are descended from immigrants. That immigration occurred in multiple waves, each of which either exterminated or absorbed the wave before it.

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rjhenn said:
Yet the "indigenous" peoples are descended from immigrants. That immigration occurred in multiple waves, each of which either exterminated or absorbed the wave before it.

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No- it wasn't ' immigration ' as there were no people present. It was a ' migration ' into empty country by the first inhabitants- the indigenous Americans. The indigenous people mixed with those that came later until the country was populated by.........indigenous North Americans for thousands of years. Then the Europeans turned up. Late 15th century, was it ?


The ancestors of living Native Americans arrived in what is now the United States at least 15,000 years ago, possibly much earlier, from Asia via Beringia. A vast variety of peoples, societies and cultures subsequently developed. Native Americans were greatly affected by the European colonization of the Americas, which began in 1492, and their population declined precipitously overwhelmingly due to introduced diseases as well as warfare, including biological warfare,[3][4][5][6] territorial confiscation and slavery. After its creation, the United States, as part of its policy of settler colonialism, waged war and perpetrated massacres[7] against many Native American peoples, removed them from their ancestral lands, and subjected them to one-sided treaties and to discriminatory government policies into the 20th century. Since the 1960s, Native American self-determination movements have resulted in changes to the lives of Native Americans, though there are still many contemporary issues faced by Native Americans. Today, there are over five million Native Americans in the United States, 78% of whom live outside reservations.
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It's taken 500 years to fuck up the country into the state it is today.
 
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Eagle-Eye said:
If one lumps all Native American as one group then yes we are the only indigenous people in the US. However we are all in separate tribes with different beliefs and customs so in truth each tribe is a separate indigenous US people.
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For the record, the claim of other posters that modern native peoples are somehow not descended from the Clovis peoples of the late Paleolithic is refuted by DNA studies

Native Americans Descend From 12,700 years old Clovis-Culture Montana Boy
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/02/native-americans-descend-ancient-montana-boy
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Cypress said:
For the record, the claim of other posters that modern native peoples are somehow not descended from the Clovis peoples of the late Paleolithic is refuted by DNA studies
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DNA does not show that they are descended, just that some of them share the DNA; which could be a result of "contact" between the two groups.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
DNA does not show that they are descended, just that some of them share the DNA; which could be a result of "contact" between the two groups.
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You'd be a fool to pursue the argument you've long-since lost.
Hey--- I should care ?

Haw, haw................................haw.
 
Posted by Cypress

For the record, the claim of other posters that modern native peoples are somehow not descended from the Clovis peoples of the late Paleolithic is refuted by DNA studies

Native Americans Descend From 12,700 years old Clovis-Culture Montana Boy
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/02/native-americans-descend-ancient-montana-boy
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USFREEDOM911 said:
DNA does not show that they are descended, just that some of them share the DNA; which could be a result of "contact" between the two groups.
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The opinion of an untrained and obscure message board poster does not carry the weight of trained scientists with expertise in genetics.

"the relatives of the Anzick child were the direct ancestors of most Native American groups living today"

Comparison studies of the ancient DNA showed that it was similar to the genomes of ancient people living in Siberia and the ancestors of East Asians. The team also discovered a deep genetic affinity between the boy's genetic material and those of 52 Native American populations living in South America and Canada.

"The Anzick remains share a common ancestry with almost every modern Native American group that we looked at," Waters said.

This is an incredible result, Willerslev said, because it suggests that the relatives of the Anzick child were the direct ancestors of most Native American groups living today. This would be possible, he added, if the population of humans living in the New World about 13,000 years ago was very small and every member was closely related to the others.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...n-dna-montana-clovis-culture-first-americans/
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According to the professor of an evolution and genetics class I recently took, the genetic diversity of indigenous Americans is lower than any other continental population group on the planet. Which is further evidence they descended from a relatively small population(s) of hunter-gatherers that crossed over Beringia from Siberia into the Americas in the late Paleolithic.
 
Cypress said:
According to the professor of an evolution and genetics class I recently took, the genetic diversity of indigenous Americans is lower than any other continental population group on the planet. Which is further evidence they descended from a relatively small population(s) of hunter-gatherers that crossed over Beringia from Siberia into the Americas in the late Paleolithic.
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Yep. You might find this article interesting:

"Willerslev added the Spirit Cave data to 14 other new whole genomes from sites scattered from Alaska to Chile and ranging from 10,700 to 500 years old. His data join an even bigger trove published in Cell by a team led by population geneticist David Reich of Harvard Medical School in Boston. They analyzed DNA from 49 new samples from Central and South America dating from 10,900 to 700 years old, at more than 1.2 million positions across the genome. All told, the data decisively dispel suggestions, based on the distinctive skull shape of a few ancient remains, that early populations had a different ancestry from today's Native Americans. "Native Americans truly did originate in the Americas, as a genetically and culturally distinctive group. They are absolutely indigenous to this continent," Raff says."

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/201...-americans-deep-roots-north-and-south-america
 
moon said:
' Native ' by birth is NOT indigenous, you buttocks-clenched dumbasses.

Haw, haw.....................................haw.
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I know I shouldn't encourage you boys when you start flinging insults, but this just made me spit tea everywhere. lol
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Yep. You might find this article interesting:

"Willerslev added the Spirit Cave data to 14 other new whole genomes from sites scattered from Alaska to Chile and ranging from 10,700 to 500 years old. His data join an even bigger trove published in Cell by a team led by population geneticist David Reich of Harvard Medical School in Boston. They analyzed DNA from 49 new samples from Central and South America dating from 10,900 to 700 years old, at more than 1.2 million positions across the genome. All told, the data decisively dispel suggestions, based on the distinctive skull shape of a few ancient remains, that early populations had a different ancestry from today's Native Americans. "Native Americans truly did originate in the Americas, as a genetically and culturally distinctive group. They are absolutely indigenous to this continent," Raff says."

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/201...-americans-deep-roots-north-and-south-america
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Isn't that what Mason said!
 
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