A Civil Discussion: Evolution, Science, Theology, Atheism, Climate

Stretch said:
You still can't grasp the debate here. It's about adult discussions without the snark of emotional attachments to attempts to humiliate an opposing point of view.
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Easy way to avoid comments about ignorance. Don't post ignorant claims using fallacious arguments such as your chronic circularity.
 
domer76 said:
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These people can spend their whole lives debating religious minutiae and expect others to do the same.
I will not. I look at the fundamentals of what they hold as truth and recognize it as the juvenile insanity that it is.
Underlying all religion is the childish fantasy that if they "believe" they will live forever, then they will.
It is willful insanity and I refuse to call it anything else.
 
BodyDouble said:
Then how did it all get created if there wasn't a creator or creators?

Correct.

Within the matrix of the visible (and invisible) stuff that was created also lies the "science" that was created along with it.

Could be he's creative by nature. Humans are. And humans were created in his image, correct?

For someone to hang with and to talk about "things" and such. (See the story of Adam & Eve.)

On earth as it is in the heavens, things work because of a slew of conditions that came before them, mostly. For example, oil and gas is in the ground and it took millions of years to get there. Many minerals, like gold, etc..., are extracted from fissures and layers of rock that are all twisted and warped. That also took quite a while. (And I don't believe I have to explain the "science" behind those two examples.)
There very well could have been a good reason for it to have been created that way. Reasons we don't yet understand. But that's the way it is and also gives man an opportunity to use those "things that work" for us in which we were given the ability to figure out.
Making those "things that work" obviously took time to make. Six days, according to the Bible. But that doesn't necessarily mean that a day to us is the same as a day to the creator(s).
So, my question to you is: "Why wouldn't this great creation be created without a history behind it?"
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Insanity.
I can't even call it circular logic.
That is circular insanity.
 
BodyDouble said:
You don't seem to be an intelligent one who can accept rationality, negro. And your stupidity and ignorance keeps you from rebutting anything I said, dumb ass.
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Nothing you said was civilized or sane.
If I didn't know better I might think you were making fun of religious nut jobs in a satirical rant.
 
Mr.Badguy said:
Well then by that logic, where did the creator come from?
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Lol, you're not allowed to ask that. He was just always there...

My own view, I don't believe in any sort of religion. The existence of God is a non-falsifiable claim, so it's outside the realm of science. That being said, I've met plenty of highly intelligent people who were strongly religious. At one of my previous jobs, I was shocked to find out that one of my colleagues (a fellow professional scientist) was a devout Christian. Another friend of mine never believed in evolution, despite getting a degree in biology. For those who aren't aware, Evolution is considered the single greatest unifying theory in biology. I don't look down on people for believing in God, and I can only hope people of faith don't look down on me for not believing.
 
BodyDouble said:
You don't seem to be an intelligent one who can accept rationality, negro. And your stupidity and ignorance keeps you from rebutting anything I said, dumb ass.
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LOL! You wouldn't know rationality if it were sodomizing you which, ironically enough, it does every time you try and reference it.

Why do you hate yourself for being black?
 
LeontheMORON said:
The pseudo intellectual melding of magic and reality in a discussion like this is contrary to civilized thought.
The principals can sound rational while giving credence to magical supernatural thinking if they choose their words carefully enough and tiptoe around the elephant in the room.
I insist that magical thinkers be willing to recognize that what they believe in requires a suspension of their ability to think rationality.
They can pretend to be rational within the minutiae of the discussion but the foundation of their premise is actually insane.
I won't let go of that fact.
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Dumb.

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LOWCharacterAsshole said:
You don't understand how science uses the word 'theory'.

Gravity is just a theory as well.

Please be less stupid.
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Gravity is not a theory you moron; we know that it exists. Evolution; yes it's PURE THEORY. Grow a fucking brain.

the·o·ry
ˈTHirē/
noun
noun: theory; plural noun: theories

a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
"Darwin's theory of evolution"
 
Stretch said:
True science has no argument with Scripture...
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Yet, Hebraic scripture is contrary to 'true' science (cosmology/geology).

The Sun was "created" about 4 days after the Earth?!?

Regarding the Levin-Fox News video, the David Berlinski quote "Because scientific theories are true, religious beliefs must be false."

This claim is a logical fallacy known as Post hoc ergo propter hoc , i.e., "That does not follow".
 
hypGnosis said:
Yet, Hebraic scripture is contrary to 'true' science (cosmology/geology).

The Sun was "created" about 4 days after the Earth?!?

Regarding the Levin-Fox News video, the David Berlinski quote "Because scientific theories are true, religious beliefs must be false."

This claim is a logical fallacy known as Post hoc ergo propter hoc , i.e., "That does not follow".
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Welcome to the board, be sure to review our rules, thanks
 
Leonthecat said:
Right. And your demeanor is that what you believe is correct no matter how insane it really is . When you recognize that what you say is real requires a level of insanity to hold as true . Then I will acknowledge a modicum of humility in you.
What you claim is a "point of view" is in fact a manifestation of your willful insanity.

You believe that you will live forever. That cannot be described as anything but insane.
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^case in point
 
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