$650,000 of Florida taxpayer money.

[evince]

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/austrian_school.asp


Mainstream economists have been critical of the modern-day Austrian school since the 1950s and consider its rejection of mathematical modeling, econometrics, and macroeconomic analysis to be outside mainstream economic theory, or heterodox.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

It's not a problem for me if California wants to absorb the cost of illegals, as long as they don't get any federal money to do it, but the taxes paid by illegals probably isn't coming close to covering the costs. The same article I linked above shows that, federally, the estimated 12.5 million illegals paid about 19 billion in federal taxes.

The costs of illegal immigration are comprehensive. Even after deducting the $19 billion in taxes paid by illegal immigrants, the 12.5 million of them living in the country results in a $116 billion burden on the economy and taxpayers each year. About two-thirds of this amount is absorbed by local and state taxpayers, who are often the least unable to share the costs.

But, again, I was making the point that the $618k is a drop in the bucket.

Translation: All the Mexicans are taking American jobs and getting rich!!!!

Dumbass; it's those who are employing illegals who are raking in the money and screwing Americans while they are at it.

Consider buying a new house; the construction company owner(s) charge you full price, hire illegals and pay them half price then pocket the difference. Same goes for hotel owners and restaurants.

Get a clue, dumbass; the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and both the American taxpayer and the illegals get screwed. Why are you against immigration reform?

 

[ZenMode]

THE VIEWS EXPRESSED BY CONTRIBUTORS ARE THEIR OWN AND NOT THE VIEW OF THE HILL

Right, so I wasn't making the number up or getting it from a neo-nazi website. The Hill is a legitimate news source. Feel free to provide your data/sources if you disagree with mine.

Thanks for the opinion. She makes good points. Why do you think the Republicans haven't pushed Immigration Reform over the past 50 years? It appears we need it. Reagan knew it. GW Bush knew it. Why does the Republican Party refuse to agree with them on it?

 

[evince]

Libertarians adhere to the Austrian school of economics


It’s TRASH dutch



They want economics to be sociology

They think math should not be used to do economics


Why?

Because when you use math to do economics it proves they are idiots living in a dream world

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Right, so I wasn't making the number up or getting it from a neo-nazi website. The Hill is a legitimate news source. Feel free to provide your data/sources if you disagree with mine.

You argue like a woman...or a very immature adolescent male. Sorry, I don't debate minors.

You're free to stick with your opinion and avoid discussing illegal immigration, but count me out due to my rule about minors.

Example:

Libertarians adhere to the Austrian school of economics


It’s TRASH dutch



They want economics to be sociology

They think math should not be used to do economics


Why?

Because when you use math to do economics it proves they are idiots living in a dream world

 

[evince]

It's not a problem for me if California wants to absorb the cost of illegals, as long as they don't get any federal money to do it, but the taxes paid by illegals probably isn't coming close to covering the costs. The same article I linked above shows that, federally, the estimated 12.5 million illegals paid about 19 billion in federal taxes.

The costs of illegal immigration are comprehensive. Even after deducting the $19 billion in taxes paid by illegal immigrants, the 12.5 million of them living in the country results in a $116 billion burden on the economy and taxpayers each year. About two-thirds of this amount is absorbed by local and state taxpayers, who are often the least unable to share the costs.

But, again, I was making the point that the $618k is a drop in the bucket.

You live in a made up world created by the idiot ideas of the Austrian school of economics


FACTS and numbers prove your claims are utter stupidity soaked in racist hate


Don’t be surprised that people think you are an idiot


It’s what you clamor for us to do with your phony assed stupid shit


Use some math next time to figure things out



Then you won’t look so fucking stupid and racist

 

[evince]

You argue like a woman...or a very immature adolescent male. Sorry, I don't debate minors.

You're free to stick with your opinion and avoid discussing illegal immigration, but count me out due to my rule about minors.

Example:

Fuck you dutch


You argue like an Austrian school fool

 

[evince]

Dutch


When will you admit the libertarians are idiots when it comes to economics


They do fantasy world assholery

 

[ZenMode]

Translation: All the Mexicans are taking American jobs and getting rich!!!!

I never said or believe that.

Dumbass; it's those who are employing illegals who are raking in the money and screwing Americans while they are at it.

Consider buying a new house; the construction company owner(s) charge you full price, hire illegals and pay them half price then pocket the difference. Same goes for hotel owners and restaurants.

Get a clue, dumbass; the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and both the American taxpayer and the illegals get screwed. Why are you against immigration reform?

I'd bet the farm that you can't find a scrap of evidence to support any of these claims. In a free market, the challenge is to continually lower costs so you can sell your product cheaper than the other guy. For example, about 73% of agriculture workers are illegals. If we replaced those people and paid the wage necessary to get Americans to do the jobs, the cost of fruits and vegetables would climb dramatically.

 

[evince]

It's not a problem for me if California wants to absorb the cost of illegals, as long as they don't get any federal money to do it, but the taxes paid by illegals probably isn't coming close to covering the costs. The same article I linked above shows that, federally, the estimated 12.5 million illegals paid about 19 billion in federal taxes.

The costs of illegal immigration are comprehensive. Even after deducting the $19 billion in taxes paid by illegal immigrants, the 12.5 million of them living in the country results in a $116 billion burden on the economy and taxpayers each year. About two-thirds of this amount is absorbed by local and state taxpayers, who are often the least unable to share the costs.

But, again, I was making the point that the $618k is a drop in the bucket.

Go get a link to your claimed numbers

 

[evince]

I never said or believe that.



I'd bet the farm that you can't find a scrap of evidence to support any of these claims. In a free market, the challenge is to continually lower costs so you can sell your product cheaper than the other guy. For example, about 73% of agriculture workers are illegals. If we replaced those people and paid the wage necessary to get Americans to do the jobs, the cost of fruits and vegetables would climb dramatically.

Dear fucking asshole racist


THEY ARE NOT ILLEGALS


THEY HAVE WORK PERMITS


fuck you very much

 

[ZenMode]

You argue like a woman...or a very immature adolescent male. Sorry, I don't debate minors.

You're free to stick with your opinion and avoid discussing illegal immigration, but count me out due to my rule about minors.

Example:

Well, better luck next time. Maybe if you were interested in a conversation, and not attacking other posters, you wouldn't have to turn tail and run when you're presented with facts.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Fuck you dutch


You argue like an Austrian school fool

I never said or believe that.
I'd bet the farm that you can't find a scrap of evidence to support any of these claims. In a free market, the challenge is to continually lower costs so you can sell your product cheaper than the other guy. For example, about 73% of agriculture workers are illegals. If we replaced those people and paid the wage necessary to get Americans to do the jobs, the cost of fruits and vegetables would climb dramatically.

See? Both of you are more alike than apart simply because you are on the same side of the illegal immigration issue.

BTW supporting illegal immigration, no matter how tacitly, is supporting indentured servitude...just to keep price of your lettuce and fruit low. LOL

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Well, better luck next time. Maybe if you were interested in a conversation, and not attacking other posters, you wouldn't have to turn tail and run when you're presented with facts.

QED


Sadly, you are continuing to dodge the immigration reform issue and, like evince, prefer to attack me rather than see the price of fruit go up in price.

 

[evince]

Translation: All the Mexicans are taking American jobs and getting rich!!!!

Dumbass; it's those who are employing illegals who are raking in the money and screwing Americans while they are at it.

Consider buying a new house; the construction company owner(s) charge you full price, hire illegals and pay them half price then pocket the difference. Same goes for hotel owners and restaurants.

Get a clue, dumbass; the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and both the American taxpayer and the illegals get screwed. Why are you against immigration reform?

I wish you could realize that the libertarian party does NOT AGREE with these types of ideas


Their economic vision is stupid and brutal when it comes to actual workers

 

[ZenMode]

Dear fucking asshole racist


THEY ARE NOT ILLEGALS


THEY HAVE WORK PERMITS


fuck you very much

You're conflating people who come here legally and those who don't. Yes, there are some who follow the process and get a work permit. I assure you the ones we see literally scaling fences, wading across the river and running through the desert are not being given a work permit.

 

[evince]

See? Both of you are more alike than apart simply because you are on the same side of the illegal immigration issue.

BTW supporting illegal immigration, no matter how tacitly, is supporting indentured servitude...just to keep price of your lettuce and fruit low. LOL

Bullshit dude


The libertarian party agrees with him dutch


Your own words are polar opposite of libertarians economic theory


You agree with me


But claim your a libertarian


It’s makes you look foolish

 

[ZenMode]

QED


Sadly, you are continuing to dodge the immigration reform issue and, like evince, prefer to attack me rather than see the price of fruit go up in price.

I'm not dodging it. I'm ignoring it because it's not what was being discussed. You brought it up, likely to distract from the fact that your first attempted attack on me was shut down.

 

[evince]

You're conflating people who come here legally and those who don't. Yes, there are some who follow the process and get a work permit. I assure you the ones we see literally scaling fences, wading across the river and running through the desert are not being given a work permit.

You are the one conflating asshole


You right wing fucks claim all immigrants are illegals


Your idiots that way

 

[evince]

See? Both of you are more alike than apart simply because you are on the same side of the illegal immigration issue.

BTW supporting illegal immigration, no matter how tacitly, is supporting indentured servitude...just to keep price of your lettuce and fruit low. LOL

I argue like a woman dutch


With the facts at my back and actual math in my corner