2025 Inauguration: Bad moon rising

[Into the Night]

Well just about everything that has some electronics in it. seeing most of the chips we use to build things here are made in China.

China doesn't make much in the way of chips at all. They DO make mechanicals (computer cases, etc), and LEDs, but not much in the way of chips.
Most processors are made in Mexico, Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan, and the United States. Low level logic is primarily made in Japan, but also in Mexico. Memory is made in Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Mexico, and the United States.
Resistors, capacitors, inductors, crystals, and transistors are primarily made in Japan and South Korea.
Displays are made in Japan and South Korea.
Hard disks are made in Japan, Mexico, Canada, and the United States.

So you'll pay more for Christmas lights, but that's about it.

Wood , steel, oil from Canada, Car parts made in Mexico.

Wood is farmed in the United States, Canada, Mexico, and some select species from various nations in Africa.
Steel is made in Mexico, the United States, and Canada.
Oil used in the United States is obtained from the United States, Canada, and Mexico.
Car parts are made in the United States, Mexico, Canada, Japan, Germany, Italy, etc.

Need more I am sure there is a lot more that can be added to that list.

You seem to be very unfamiliar with where stuff is made.

Trump says he is putting a 20% tariff on everything we import

No, he isn't.

that will drive up the cost of everything we buy that is imported by at least 20%,

Tariffs do not cause inflation.

I would not put it past the Large corps. adding a couple percent on too just to increase their bottom line and blame it on the tariffs.

Tariffs do not cause inflation.

 

[Into the Night]

Are YOU REALLY that STUPID????
What don't YOU understand about EVERYTHING you buy????????
EVERY fucking thing!

Void argument fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Well at least I KNOW what EVERYTHING stands for.

Void argument fallacy. Buzzword fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

IF what Trump is doing by putting his tariffs on and driving up the cost of just about EVERYTHING you buy is MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN I don't want it.
As a lot of the worlds top economists have come out and said those tariffs could drive us into a deep recession / depression I guess that is what you want , that is NOT MAGA.

Economists are not prophets. Ten different economists will give you ten different opinions.
Tariffs are not being put on everything, and the United States doesn't import everything.

 

[Into the Night]

Look it up it was in late fall , Nov, Dec. BEFORE COVID.

Which November or December? What year?

 

[Phantasmal]

This is why John Fetterman said libs should pace themselves, and not shit the bed over every little thing. You only make bigger fools of yourselves than usual. People who understand Trump realize these threats of tariffs are a negotiating tactic.

What’s to negotiate? It’s his treaties? His new improved NAFTA. This is just pure stupidity. Mexico and Canada don’t fear him anymore. They can sell their goods to other countries, with no tariffs.

 

[Into the Night]

YOU are a FUCKING MORON and that IS giving you a complement
YOU apparently don't even know the meaning of EVERYTHING.
And for YOUR info the US refineries buy their oil on the world market and that INCLUDES ALL US produced oil.
And putting a 20/25% tariff on world oil will drive up the cost of fuel and gas driving up the cost of EVERYTHING you buy even more.
WAKE UP ASSHOLE.

Buzzword fallacy (everything). U.S. is not imported into the U.S.

 

[Into the Night]

I don't care if she did or didn't.
I have a question to ask.
Can you imagine the damage Canada could do to our economy if they shut down the electric power they sell to us for just one week?

Canada doesn't provide electric power to the United States. The United States generates their own power.

The ERIC, TRIC, and WRIC are not power generation.

There are a lot of states that get their electric from Canada and depend on it.

None.

5 or 6 in the Midwest several more in the Northeast , Millions and Millions of people depend on that power.

None. The ERIC is not power generation.

There wouldn't be any refrigeration working, no computers , no lights , billions of dollars worth of food would go bad, stores and companies would have to shut down , people laid off, and if they did do something like that I would make sure the people it effected knew that they did it because of Trumps tariffs.

That's just idiocy. Canada does not sell power to the U.S. The U.S. is quite capable of generating sufficient power for all three grids.
The only place that doesn't generate sufficient power is the SDTC. That's fed by the WRIC, and they import almost all their power from neighboring regions (not Canada).

I hope they don't and don't think they will.

If Canada wants to shut off their power plants, the WRIC and ERIC will simply disconnect them, leaving Canada with no power.

I am just saying they could do some REAL damage to the US economy.

Not possible.

And again as it is if he does put his tariffs of 25% on , their electric bill will go up by that much or more, heck they could tack on another 3,4,5% on and increase their bottom line.
I really don't think Trump realizes what damage they could do to the US economy.

You are making shit up out of whole cloth, Tball.

 

[Tbird19482]

that would be stupid of canada.

you're very dumb and cant explain shit well.

Would it be?
If they did it for one week and told the people in the US it is all because of Trump and his tariffs .
They could cause billions and billions of dollars damages to the US economy,
Trump thinks he has the upper hand well he had better rethink it.

 

[Into the Night]

What’s to negotiate? It’s his treaties? His new improved NAFTA. This is just pure stupidity. Mexico and Canada don’t fear him anymore. They can sell their goods to other countries, with no tariffs.

That depends on the country they sell their goods to, Phanty.

 

[countryboy]

What’s to negotiate? It’s his treaties? His new improved NAFTA. This is just pure stupidity. Mexico and Canada don’t fear him anymore. They can sell their goods to other countries, with no tariffs.

It's going to be a very long 4 to 12 years for you. Enjoy.

 

[Into the Night]

Would it be?
If they did it for one week and told the people in the US it is all because of Trump and his tariffs .
They could cause billions and billions of dollars damages to the US economy,
Trump thinks he has the upper hand well he had better rethink it.

The economy of the United States is not the economy of Canada, Tball.

 

[Tbird19482]

The economy of the United States is not the economy of Canada, Tball.

NO SHIT ASSHOLE.

 

[Based Chad]

Would it be?
If they did it for one week and told the people in the US it is all because of Trump and his tariffs .
They could cause billions and billions of dollars damages to the US economy,
Trump thinks he has the upper hand well he had better rethink it.

why would they do that?

 

[Tbird19482]

why would they do that?

to get Trump to take his tariffs off.
As i said they could do this for one week and it would cause a great deal of damage to our economy.
Just pointing out what they could do if they decided to.

 

[Based Chad]

to get Trump to take his tariffs off.
As i said they could do this for one week and it would cause a great deal of damage to our economy.
Just pointing out what they could do if they decided to.

thats amusing.

 

[Tbird19482]

thats amusing.

I am just pointing out that Canada could do a lot more harm to our economy then the tariffs will do to theirs IF they wanted.
And again the countries Trump puts tariffs on most likely will just pass them on to the US consumer and we will be the ones paying them not them.

 

[Based Chad]

I am just pointing out that Canada could do a lot more harm to our economy then the tariffs will do to theirs IF they wanted.
And again the countries Trump puts tariffs on most likely will just pass them on to the US consumer and we will be the ones paying them not them.

should we embargo all the countries that tariff us?

I say yes.

 

[Bigdog]

Look it up it was in late fall , Nov, Dec. BEFORE COVID.

It was reported in the Spring to stop the covid oil war. Look it up.

 

[Tbird19482]

should we embargo all the countries that tariff us?

I say yes.

The problem is we still do not have the infrastructure to make a lot of things here , YET.
And as it has been pointed out by some of the top economists tariffs as high as Trump is talking about could lead to a deep recession / depression , people will get laid off and prices will raise more then the inflation under Biden that the MAGA cried so much about but this time it is being done on propose.