Mrs. Santorum

I can just picture Darla and her pals convulsing over the toilet bowl after finding out today that Santorum actually won Iowa. We are going to learn so many interesting things about Santorum that none of us knew. It will be magnificent and stupendous vetting........the kind of vetting that should have been done 4 years ago on Obama but wasn't allowed because to do so is to risk being called a racist and that probably applies even more in this election.
 
Can any liberal here link to the text of Santorum's proposal to outlaw abortion in spite of the physical health of the mother?
 
Oh this is going to be a sight to behold. The blood letting on Santorum will be a thing of beauty.
 
Teaching children about death and how to handle death is an important part of their upbringing. I would not be against handling such a situation either way....whether showing a dead sibling to youngsters or not. My mother took me to funerals from the time I was 5. She explained things to me and I grew up realizing that people will eventually die. When she died I grieved, cried and such but because of her teaching me I was able to handle it better than I would have thougt. Each family/person has different ways of approaching the death of a loved one.


Well, we all deal with it in our own wys, I would not take a five year old to a funeral. My children have all grown up knowing death happens, but I just feel five is a little too young, myself.
 

I wouldn't believe TP if they told me Bill Clinton is a Democrat.

You need to understand one thing from this video. He never says that HE wants to ban abortion. This is what the left does. It's the old bait and switch. They put up something close and some moron thinks it means what he's told it means. It works on stupid people, which explains why the left is predominantly made up of stupid indoctrinated academics and losers.
 
The left is scared to death of Santorum. They're gonna say he is a witch doctor, a drug addict, a cult leader, deranged, alcoholic, wife beater, etc, etc.

"Scared to death", please. Spare me the hyperbole. I've known santorum since he introduced himself on his first run for public office in the early 90s. He was a fekking liar then and he's never changed. You think he suffered the 2006 smackdown here because the left was afraid of him? It's because all his lying finally caught up with him and people saw the real man beneath the facile exterior. Personally, I hope he advances further in the primaries so his entire past will be open to the same scrutiny all the others get. I don't know what it is about you righties that you fall so readily for the loons in your party, and ignore the only man who can be a real contender.
 
I didn't know about this.

I don't have anything else to say about it other than I didn't know about it, and it's interesting information.


"Let's get down to brass tacks: Presidential candidate Rick Santorum, Personhood Pledge-signing, Griswold vs. Connecticut-opposing, Mr. Ban Abortion in All Circumstances With No Exception for the Life of the Mother, believes that the actions of his own wife should be treated as criminal. Why? Because, back in 1996, his wife had a procedure that resulted in the deliberate death of her fetus, even though it was a matter of saving her own life.

Karen Santorum's difficult pregnancy and resultant life-saving, induced early delivery is no secret; in a 2004 interview with NPR's Terry Gross, her husband characterized the 1996 procedure as a harrowing but necessary. Karen, in her 19th week of pregnancy, received a risky surgery to save a pregnancy that doctors thought had little chance of survival. After the surgery, she came down with an infection, and doctors told Rick that unless the source of the infection — the fetus — was removed, his wife would die and his already-born children would be motherless. The doctor also told Santorum that his wife's fetus would not survive outside of the womb. According to Santorum, Karen went into labor as a result of the antibiotics, and then doctors gave her a drug that further induced labor. She delivered, and unfortunately the doctors were right.

Shortly after Santorum first talked to the press about his wife's pregnancy and their subsequent loss, rumors began circulating that Karen had actually had an abortion rather than induced delivery. Our Silver Ribbon goes so far as to assert that Karen Santorum did, in fact, have a second-trimester abortion.

But whether or not Karen Santorum had an abortion or medically induced the birth of a non-viable fetus shouldn't matter in the eyes of someone with views as extreme as Santorum, as he is one of a disturbingly large group of politicians who believe that women should not be allowed to abort under any circumstances. Santorum's even against abortion if there were no hope of the fetus surviving to full term, or even if the woman carrying the fetus risked death doing so. Karen Santorum would have died if the fetus were not removed, and labor was induced and not halted knowing that the fetus would not survive. How is this not technically "abortion?" In Santorum's world, it would probably qualify as infanticide.

The hairsplitting debate over whether Karen Santorum had an abortion only serves to expose the ridiculousness of Rick Santorum's extremism. In his view, it's absolutely not okay for a woman to have doctors remove her life-threatening pregnancy for her, but it is okay for a woman to deliver a fetus well before viability so that the child can die slowly, in open air, as the Good Lord intended? Or is it just not okay for everyone who doesn't happen to be Rick Santorum's wife?

As Rick Santorum gains ground in the polls and commentators increasingly speak of him as if he's not a dangerous, raving zealot, please do remember that Karen Santorum's lifesaving medical intervention is different than the abortions that Santorum wishes to outlaw only in that the woman getting the lifesaving medical intervention was Karen Santorum. His policies would prevent other women from receiving the care they needed, and leave scores of non-Santorum children motherless. If that's not hypocrisy, then I don't know what is.

Full Story.



So Santorum is yet another example of a "Do as I say and not as I do" Rightie?
 
Well, we all deal with it in our own wys, I would not take a five year old to a funeral. My children have all grown up knowing death happens, but I just feel five is a little too young, myself.

I was at my Grandfather's funeral when I was two, almost three. (Yes I do remember it). This isn't something that is often hidden from children raised in a more rural setting.
 
See, this is the problem with the left. We have a Constitutional crisis with this President acting and speaking like a dictator, and all some on the left can do is mock a fellow American citizen who is running for President and loves the US Constitution.

Liberalism is a mental disease.

Yet your pal santorum would be quite willing to bomb the crap out of Iran if they didn't toe the line he set. Just what this country needs, another war-happy freak with an itchy trigger finger.
 
I wouldn't believe TP if they told me Bill Clinton is a Democrat.

You need to understand one thing from this video. He never says that HE wants to ban abortion. This is what the left does. It's the old bait and switch. They put up something close and some moron thinks it means what he's told it means. It works on stupid people, which explains why the left is predominantly made up of stupid indoctrinated academics and losers.

Well, English is my first language and unless he is speaking some exotic form of American then it is crystal clear as to what he is saying.
 
I was at my Grandfather's funeral when I was two, almost three. (Yes I do remember it). This isn't something that is often hidden from children raised in a more rural setting.

I was raised in Kansas, in a small farming community. My parents didn't take us to funerals.
 
Well, English is my first language and unless he is speaking some exotic form of American then it is crystal clear as to what he is saying.

Yes, what he and his wife did, he would deny to others. He would let other mothers die. It is crystal clear, he uses double standards.
 
Yes and so do I, having been brought up as a Catholic as I've already stated. Any doctor would try to save both but as Mott is saying, if there was a choice between saving the baby or the mother many would choose the baby.

There was an example of this just a few months ago.

"Last November, a 27-year-old woman was admitted to St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center in Phoenix. She was 11 weeks pregnant with her fifth child, and she was gravely ill. According to a hospital document, she had "right heart failure," and her doctors told her that if she continued with the pregnancy, her risk of mortality was "close to 100 percent." The patient, who was too ill to be moved to the operating room much less another hospital, agreed to an abortion. But there was a complication: She was at a Catholic hospital.


"They were in quite a dilemma," says Lisa Sowle Cahill, who teaches Catholic theology at Boston College. "There was no good way out of it. The official church position would mandate that the correct solution would be to let both the mother and the child die. I think in the practical situation that would be a very hard choice to make." But the hospital felt it could proceed because of an exception — called Directive 47 in the U.S. Catholic Church's ethical guidelines for health care providers — that allows, in some circumstance, procedures that could kill the fetus to save the mother. Sister Margaret McBride, who was an administrator at the hospital as well as its liaison to the diocese, gave her approval.


The woman survived. When Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted heard about the abortion, he declared that McBride was automatically excommunicated — the most serious penalty the church can levy."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126985072
 
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