Obama says if he loses we'll be in for a new, painful era of self-reliance

Phanes said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that these philosophical discussions about the size and scope of government were taking place online since at least the time I joined the politics.com forum back in 2002. That would be before anyone here had even heard of Mr. Obama, but, again, I could be mistaken in all of this speculation...
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If these discussions can be classed as philosophy I've been wrong about Plato, Descartes an Wittgenstein all these years!

Philosophy 101

Plato: 'You suck.'
Descartes: 'Then shove it up your arse.'
Wittgenstein: 'Your mother is a stinkin whore.'
Plato: 'Say that again, you bloody kraut, and I'll punch your lights out.'
Descartes: 'OK. That's it. You are on ignore!'
 
Lowaicue said:
If these discussions can be classed as philosophy I've been wrong about Plato, Descartes an Wittgenstein all these years!

Philosophy 101

Plato: 'You suck.'
Descartes: 'Then shove it up your arse.'
Wittgenstein: 'Your mother is a stinkin whore.'
Plato: 'Say that again, you bloody kraut, and I'll punch your lights out.'
Descartes: 'OK. That's it. You are on ignore!'
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:rofl: Good one!
 
Lowaicue said:
What would your answer be if you were asked how big your government should be? Or how much tax you should pay, or whether you wanted the defence of your country or hospitals or schools?

I would love to see those right wing lunatics who have lost the plot, have to repair the roads outside their own houses, to put out the fire in their neighbours house, to watch a murderer walk free because there was no money to run the courts. It would be good news for the terrorists who could just walk in unhindered , kill and then walk out again.....

Oh, wait a minute, you don't actually mean the government is too big, do you? Because you have no idea just how big it is. But by the hell, you want to get rid of that 'boy' in the whitehouse, dont you? He doesn't get any whiter with the weather does he, and by golly if ever he is successful with your economy you'll never see his black ass disappear!!
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Did you intend, amid the semi-coherent babble you posted, to stumble upon a point?
 
A conservative is a person who will look at a person suffering from a seizure and say, since the brain is simply composed of individual neurons pursuing their own self-interest, it would be evil and immoral to take any action to stop the seizure. The American economy is in a seizure, and because conservatives hate their country, they seek to destroy America.
 
Lowaicue said:
So no national government but unlimited local government, huh. That's OK then. Who will pay, then, when you find there are two firemen where there should be one? You?
Anyway I guess it would be OK just so long as they didn't tax caravans or ban guns.

What is the English for Yeee-hahhh?
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Corporations love decentralized government. They don't care where they exist on paper, they'll move where they want, while individuals get stuck with the burden of government. Conservatives hate America, they despise the American people, they should be given the corporate citizenship they desire and have all rights as Americans revoked.
 
Watermark Buddha said:
A conservative is a person who will look at a person suffering from a seizure and say, since the brain is simply composed of individual neurons pursuing their own self-interest, it would be evil and immoral to take any action to stop the seizure. The American economy is in a seizure, and because conservatives hate their country, they seek to destroy America.
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A conservative would seek the root cause of the seizure and attempt to find a cure, a liberal would give them other people's money so they could stay at home and have more seizures.

See? I can make stupid inaccurate statements stereotyping liberals, just like you can make stupid inaccurate statements stereotyping "conservatives"...
 
Watermark Buddha said:
The millionaires and the temporarily embarrassed millionaires are the parasites. The 99% produces all, the 1% receives all. We need to pick the tick of the upper class off of the body of American society.
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The 53% pays for it all, the 47% gets a lot... I think somebody has gotten excited about the wrong percentages and convinced by idiots on how to apply the math.
 
Damocles said:
The 53% pays for it all, the 47% gets a lot... I think somebody has gotten excited about the wrong percentages and convinced by idiots on how to apply the math.
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Oh, the robbers have taken so much for me that they now have to pay taxes on it. How awful! I feel so bad for the guy who takes everything from those who produce in this economy and gives it to himself!

We need a revolution. There is no other way to strip the evil of conservatism from American society. They will destroy America. The people have a right to self-defense against conservative aggression. Otherwise we will be reduced to slavery.
 
Damocles said:
"painful era of self-reliance in America."

That is absolutely a poor choice of words. Seriously... That was stupid. Remember when just saying that he wanted to redistribute some wealth was a huge thing in the last election?
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It was a Freudian slip from a guy who thinks American reliance should be on big government liberal policies.
 
Watermark Buddha said:
The millionaires and the temporarily embarrassed millionaires are the parasites. The 99% produces all, the 1% receives all. We need to pick the tick of the upper class off of the body of American society.
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The ticks are those sucking up all the freebies- not those paying for it all. Your envy is showing once again. If you don't like wealth- don't create any.
 
icedancer2theend said:
The ticks are those sucking up all the freebies- not those paying for it all. Your envy is showing once again. If you don't like wealth- don't create any.
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If you don't create wealth, you shouldn't receive any. Who creates the wealth in our society? The workers? The engineers? The scientists? The teachers? The artists? The doctors? Or those who sit on their fat ass and take wealth? Because those who sit on their fat ass are apparently "creating" hundreds of times more wealth than those who design and build their products. Clearly, we do not need engineers. We don't need scientists. Bankers and CEO's are so useful, and do so much more than them, work so much harder, that's why they receive hundreds of times more in wealth (or this is what I am called on to believe, should I worship at the free market altar). We can create an entire fucking society of bankers uselessly shoving money around.
 
Paris Hilton was like a thousand times more useful than Einstein, according to the free market! God, Einstein, you were so fucking useless, if only we had less lazy asses like Einstein and more Captains of industry like Paris Hilton. Gee, I'm glad I live in this universe.
 
Oh man, Dennis Richie, what a slouch. You only created the most prolific programming language on the face of the Earth and revolutionized operating system design. What has that done? We would've been much better had another banker been born in your place, creating so much more wealth, making the economy run so much better, as would've been shown by his much greater salary. It is the bankers who create wealth in this society, after all.
 
Watermark Buddha said:
Oh man, Dennis Richie, what a slouch. You only created the most prolific programming language on the face of the Earth and revolutionized operating system design. What has that done? We would've been much better had another banker been born in your place, creating so much more wealth, making the economy run so much better, as would've been shown by his much greater salary. It is the bankers who create wealth in this society, after all.
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Jesus Christ lived off others and advised his disciples to do the same.
 
Damocles said:
A conservative would seek the root cause of the seizure and attempt to find a cure, a liberal would give them other people's money so they could stay at home and have more seizures.

See? I can make stupid inaccurate statements stereotyping liberals, just like you can make stupid inaccurate statements stereotyping "conservatives"...
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His stupidiy is why I'm ignoring him, until 12/1
 
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