LMAO... no moron... it is the same thing as the discussion of God. Just because different people believe different things about God doesn't mean they are not referring to the same entity.
Well, yes it does... that's EXACTLY what it means, because God isn't a physical entity! God is how each individual perceives God, and it's impossible to comprehend God if you wish to apply physical standards and requirements. I showed you in the previous links, how the interpretation of "Abraham's God" was derived by the Muslims, as well as the much older and more documented and established Christian-Judeo interpretations and accounts. At the actual time of Abraham, the people who would one day form Islam, were worshiping multiple Gods, and earliest teaching of the religion, depicts the God of Abraham as an inferior God to Allah, who is the Father of All Gods. It was through Mohammed, this was modified into the religion of Islam, with his CLAIM that he was a decedent of Abraham. There is no historical record of this, no evidence has ever been produced to confirm it... We know that Mohammed was an adulterer, a liar and a thief.... but descendant of Abraham? Who knows? If he was, he certainly had a gross misconception of Abraham's God, as my earlier links also pointed out. The entire Muslim faith was based on the Christian faith of the time, that's why many of the same exact stories are found in the Koran, they established the religion in the image of Christianity... but they changed the parameters, motives, purpose... they perverted the legitimate word of God, and formed a religion based on hate, revenge and dishonesty.
The apples and oranges is your absurd counterfeit bill analogy above. There you are talking about two distinctly separate bills. To make your analogy apples to apples, one person would claim the bill counterfeit while another claimed it was real. Both then would still be referring to the same piece of paper, but would have different views as to the validity of the paper.
Islam is a counterfeit of Christian religion. This is not some "lost history" situation, we know many things that were recorded in ancient records, and we can't just ignore that and pretend Islam is a legitimately established religion like Christianity and Judaism, that is the whole problem we're having right now, we have legitimized these people and their perverted religious beliefs, now we have to deal with them. You want to continue to prop them up and support them, like some kind of fucked in the head liberal. I can't understand it.
Yes and many Christians CLAIM Jesus was a white guy. So is Christanity a complete sham because of that belief ditzie?
Again... seventh time... this is not a theological argument. I am merely pointing out the history and backgrounds. It may be that ALL religion is a sham.... I am not here debating that.
No moron, that is where you are 100% wrong. Otherwise you would be making the same bullshit claims regarding the differences between Jews and Christians. How can they BOTH be talking about the same God with all of the differences between those two religions ditzie? Thanks for again demonstrating the bigotry you and Yurt hold so dear.
There are a LOT of differences between Jews and Christians, I never claimed there wasn't. As for their mutual understanding that Abraham was promised Israel for the Jewish people by God, there is no difference. As for their understanding that the God of Abraham is a God of hope, love, understanding, forgiveness... I think they are very similar. Islam is a complete and total perversion of this, as it was established much later in history, arguably, to 'compete' with Jewish and Jewish-based faith. It has existed, since it's inception as a religion, as a 'hate group' devoted to the elimination of the Jew. This is taught throughout the religion, and is part of the basic fundamentals of it... this is not an "extreme" view, it is the fundamental basic view held by ALL practicing Muslims.
