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Joke or not, every word is true. If you don't believe it, you don't believe the truth, I guess. :dunno:

A couple of questions intrigue me. First, what was god doing before he created the universe and everything?
Second, why did he create dinosaurs and then wait sixty million years till going with his second choice?

Did he have other things to do like inventing jam and mousetraps or did he just sit around counting his toes?
 
A couple of questions intrigue me. First, what was god doing before he created the universe and everything?
Second, why did he create dinosaurs and then wait sixty million years till going with his second choice?

Did he have other things to do like inventing jam and mousetraps or did he just sit around counting his toes?

He will say that it all happened in six days, after that God was so knackered he had a day of rest!!
 
A couple of questions intrigue me. First, what was god doing before he created the universe and everything?
Second, why did he create dinosaurs and then wait sixty million years till going with his second choice?

Did he have other things to do like inventing jam and mousetraps or did he just sit around counting his toes?

Hey little man with a small Iq. Are you mocking God?
 
The above just shows your bigotry. How did the Muslims 'alter God'?

have you read the quran?

btw, there is nothing bigoted about my comments. they are the truth. if you want to be a closed minded ignorant fool, go for it.

they altered god by claiming god has no son, altered the abraham story, altered god vis a vis the numerous actions taken by muhammad, altered god by changing other stories.

i strongly suggest you READ the quran and the hadiths, instead of relying on other people's opinion. this is one case where you can learn, if you actually bothered to read the texts yourself.
 
A couple of questions intrigue me. First, what was god doing before he created the universe and everything?
Second, why did he create dinosaurs and then wait sixty million years till going with his second choice?

Did he have other things to do like inventing jam and mousetraps or did he just sit around counting his toes?

Why do you mock me? I haven't proselytized here, or attempted to engage you in a theological discussion of Christian faith, why are you pretending I have? You need to talk to a Christian, preferably one with Advanced Religious Studies background, perhaps they can answer your questions. See... here's the problem we're having... I make a statement that "Christians believe (A) (B) or (C)" ...and you begin to try and debate with me about why Christians are wrong, as if I have argued that Christian beliefs are correct or right. I am merely telling you what Christians believe, not making an argument FOR their beliefs... or AGAINST, for that matter.
 
Why do you mock me? I haven't proselytized here, or attempted to engage you in a theological discussion of Christian faith, why are you pretending I have? You need to talk to a Christian, preferably one with Advanced Religious Studies background, perhaps they can answer your questions. See... here's the problem we're having... I make a statement that "Christians believe (A) (B) or (C)" ...and you begin to try and debate with me about why Christians are wrong, as if I have argued that Christian beliefs are correct or right. I am merely telling you what Christians believe, not making an argument FOR their beliefs... or AGAINST, for that matter.

My God, you are just unbelievable. You were the one that stated that it was justifiable for Zionist Jews to ethnically cleanse 700,000 Arabs from their villages because God said they were there under a false pretence. So are saying that you are just playing the devils' advocate?
 
My God, you are just unbelievable. You were the one that stated that it was justifiable for Zionist Jews to ethnically cleanse 700,000 Arabs from their villages because God said they were there under a false pretence. So are saying that you are just playing the devils' advocate?

I correctly stated that the land in question is the land promised by God to Abraham for the Jewish people... that is either a true or false statement, it is true. I don't know about "ethnic cleansing" ...you haven't presented any evidence such a thing has ever occurred, and I am not disputing it or attempting to argue for it or against it. I merely pointed out that Israel is the promised land for the Jewish, according to the God of Abraham, and all who believe in the God of Abraham understand this. The "Palestinians" have no right to the land whatsoever, regardless of what the God of Abraham says.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine

Further information: Definitions of Palestine and History of the name Palestine
The term Peleset (transliterated from hieroglyphs as P-r-s-t) is found in numerous Egyptian documents referring to a neighboring people or land starting from c.1150 BCE during the Twentieth dynasty of Egypt. The first mention is thought to be in texts of the temple at Medinet Habu which record a people called the Peleset among the Sea Peoples who invaded Egypt in Ramesses III's reign.[SUP][7][/SUP] The Assyrians called the same region Palashtu or Pilistu, beginning with Adad-nirari III in the Nimrud Slab in c.800 BCE through to emperor Sargon II in his Annals approximately a century later.[SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP][SUP][10][/SUP] Neither the Egyptian or Assyrian sources provided clear regional boundaries for the term.
The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the region synonymous with that defined in modern times was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece. Herodotus wrote of a 'district of Syria, called Palaistinê" in The Histories, the first historical work clearly defining the region, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.[SUP][11][/SUP][SUP][12][/SUP][SUP][13][/SUP][SUP][14][/SUP][SUP][15][/SUP][SUP][16][/SUP] Approximately a century later, Aristotle used a similar definition in Meteorology, writing "Again if, as is fabled, there is a lake in Palestine, such that if you bind a man or beast and throw it in it floats and does not sink, this would bear out what we have said. They say that this lake is so bitter and salt that no fish live in it and that if you soak clothes in it and shake them it cleans them," understood by scholars to be a reference to the Dead Sea.[SUP][17][/SUP] Later writers such as Polemon and Pausanias also used the term to refer to the same region. This usage was followed by Roman writers such as Ovid, Tibullus, Pomponius Mela, Pliny the Elder, Dio Chrysostom, Statius, Plutarch as well as Roman Judean writers Philo of Alexandria and Josephus[SUP][18][/SUP]. Other writers, such as Strabo, a prominent Roman-era geographer (although he wrote in Greek), referred to the region as Coele-Syria around 10-20 CE.[SUP][19][/SUP][SUP][20][/SUP] The term was first used to denote an official province in c.135 CE, when the Roman authorities, following the suppression of the Bar Kokhba Revolt, combined Iudaea Province with Galilee and other surrounding cities such as Ashkelon to form "Syria Palaestina" (Syria Palaestina), which some scholars state was in order to complete the dissociation with Judaea.[SUP][21][/SUP][SUP][22][/SUP]
The Hebrew name Peleshet (פלשת Pəlésheth)- usually translated as Philistia in English, is used in the Bible more than 250 times. In the Torah / Pentateuch the term is used 10 times and its boundaries are undefined. The later Historical books (see Deuteronomistic history) include most of the biblical references, almost 200 of which are in the Book of Judges and the Books of Samuel, where the term is used to denote the southern coastal region to the west of the ancient Kingdom of Judah.[SUP][23][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP][SUP][18][/SUP]
During the Byzantine period, the entire region (Syria Palestine, Samaria, and the Galilee) was named Palaestina, subdivided into provinces Palaestina I and II.[SUP][24][/SUP] The Byzantines also renamed an area of land including the Negev, Sinai, and the west coast of the Arabian Peninsula as Palaestina Salutaris, sometimes called Palaestina III.[SUP][24][/SUP] The Arabic word for Palestine is فلسطين (commonly transcribed in English as Filistin, Filastin, or Falastin).[SUP][25][/SUP] Moshe Sharon writes that when the Arabs took over Greater Syria in the 7th century, place names that were in use by the Byzantine administration before them, generally continued to be used. Hence, he traces the emergence of the Arabic form Filastin to this adoption, with Arabic inflection, of Roman and Hebrew (Semitic) names.[SUP][8][/SUP] Jacob Lassner and Selwyn Ilan Troen offer a different view, writing that Jund Filastin, the full name for the administrative province under the rule of the Arab caliphates, was traced by Muslim geographers back to the Philistines of the Bible.[SUP][26][/SUP] The use of the name "Palestine" in English became more common after the European renaissance.[SUP][27][/SUP] It was officially revived by the British after the fall of the Ottoman Empire and applied to the territory that was placed under The Palestine Mandate.
Some other terms that have been used to refer to all or part of this land include Canaan, Greater Israel, Greater Syria, the Holy Land, Iudaea Province, Judea,[SUP][28][/SUP] Israel, "Israel HaShlema", Kingdom of Israel, Kingdom of Jerusalem, Land of Israel (Eretz Yisrael or Ha'aretz), Zion, Retenu (Ancient Egyptian), Southern Syria, and Syria Palestina.
 
wrong again. one is expanding on god, the other is completely altering god. if you actually took the time to compare allah with god from the OT and the NT you would realize how dumb you are for saying they are the same. christianity did not change the OT, quite the contrast to islam which changed many important tenets of the OT and the NT, well, pretty much ignores the NT. i suspect you have done very little research of your own and instead rely on the opinion of others. i've read much of the quran, many hadiths. i suggest you do the same and then get back to me.

1) All three religions believe in the God of Abraham
2) All three religions believe different things
3) Believing different things about 'God/alla' does not change the FACT that all three religions believe in the SAME entity. The fact that MEN in each religion and in each SECT within each religion BELIEVE different things about the entity does not change the FACT that they all are talking about the same entity.
 
have you read the quran?

Not all of it, nor have I read the entire Bible.

btw, there is nothing bigoted about my comments. they are the truth. if you want to be a closed minded ignorant fool, go for it.

Yes, there is. When you say one group 'altered God' because the stories THEY wrote down differ from the stories YOU believe to be true... it is bigoted against them. The JEWS and CHRISTIANS did the EXACT same thing as the Muslims. The same thing as the Mormons. The same thing as most religions. MEN wrote down stories, supposedly from God. You have absolutely NO way of knowing which are true or which variations are correct.... IF ANY. Yet you PROCLAIM that the Muslims are the ones that 'altered God'.

You ignore the FACT that God just might have told the story in ways that each group could relate.

You say the Muslims 'altered God' because they claim he has no son. Yet the Jews, who also claim he has no son.... somehow they did not 'alter God' and therefore still believe in the same God as the Christians. That is fucked up and of course.... BIGOTED.

they altered god by claiming god has no son, altered the abraham story, altered god vis a vis the numerous actions taken by muhammad, altered god by changing other stories.

Moron. NONE of the above 'alters God'. It changes the stories MAN wrote about God. It doesn't change the FACT that it is the SAME entity that the Jews and Christians believe in. It does not change the FACT that it is STILL the God of Abraham of which they speak.

i strongly suggest you READ the quran and the hadiths, instead of relying on other people's opinion. this is one case where you can learn, if you actually bothered to read the texts yourself.

I strongly suggest you take your own advice. For it is in the Koran that the Muslims worship the God of Abraham.... that point was made clear in the article Ditzie posted.
 
I correctly stated that the land in question is the land promised by God to Abraham for the Jewish people... that is either a true or false statement, it is true. I don't know about "ethnic cleansing" ...you haven't presented any evidence such a thing has ever occurred, and I am not disputing it or attempting to argue for it or against it. I merely pointed out that Israel is the promised land for the Jewish, according to the God of Abraham, and all who believe in the God of Abraham understand this. The "Palestinians" have no right to the land whatsoever, regardless of what the God of Abraham says.

You're, of course, insane.
 
The "Palestinians" have no right to the land whatsoever, regardless of what the God of Abraham says.

The above is quite possible the stupidest thing you have ever said.... and coming from the author of '1/3, it doesn't exist'.... that is saying something.

For hundreds of years the Palestinians lived on that land. To claim they have no right to it is beyond absurd. Some story written in a book a couple thousand years ago doesn't change that fact.
 
The above is quite possible the stupidest thing you have ever said.... and coming from the author of '1/3, it doesn't exist'.... that is saying something.

For hundreds of years the Palestinians lived on that land. To claim they have no right to it is beyond absurd. Some story written in a book a couple thousand years ago doesn't change that fact.

Not only that he seems to be saying that their forced eviction by any means necessary, including intimidation, violence and arson is apparently justified because his God said it's OK. Unfortunately I think he speaks for many on the loony religious Right in the US, especially south of the Mason-Dixon line. :palm:
 
Not only that he seems to be saying that their forced eviction by any means necessary, including intimidation, violence and arson is apparently justified because his God said it's OK. Unfortunately I think he speaks for many on the loony religious Right in the US, especially south of the Mason-Dixon line. :palm:

To a degree I think many on the RR think like he does, but I think most of the extremists on the RR would even back away from a claim as absurd as the one ditzie just made.
 
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