Weiner: Yeah, it was my wiener!

WinterBorn said:
His actions showed he is willing to break sacred oaths, lie to the public, and is only sorry that he got caught.

That is certainly relevant to his job, in which he swore an oath, is expected (naive of us, yes) to tell us the truth, and should be honest in his dealings.

No, he needs to go.
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What a pile of horseshit. He took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. HOW is he violating that oath and what 'sacred oath' did he break?
 
Bfgrn said:
You folks need to grow the fuck up. This is not a crime. The people in the 9th district can decide if they want to remove him. I hope he stays. We need 500 more like him.
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I didn't see anyone say he should go to jail. But the fact that you think it is "mean spirited" to expect honesty from our elected officials is kinda sad.
 
WinterBorn said:
I didn't see anyone say he should go to jail. But the fact that you think it is "mean spirited" to expect honesty from our elected officials is kinda sad.
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And for you to want something that smells like a religious test is unconstitutional. There is no evidence that he had physical contact or even 'in person' contact with these women. Some of the contacts were before he was married.
 
Damocles said:
I just watched him admit it on the TeeVee...

Six women for three years, he's had cyber-affairs. He won't resign, but he is a pig....

:palm:
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But, but, but it was all a grand conspiracy.... he was hacked by the Breitbart.... BREITBART did it.

Where is Desh to explain it all?
 
Taichiliberal said:
So another idiot politician let's his little head do the thinking and endangers or destroys a promising political career.

What's with these guys? Whether Dem or Repub, it seems as soon as they get a little success or power, they act like fools.

And what's really sad is that little dishonest shit Breitbart FINALLY got one story right where he didn't have to exaggerate, tell half the truth or present an edit out of context.

Way to go, Congressman Weiner...you dope!
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LOL, that's the first thing I thought of, too. For once we don't have to deconstruct another breitbart lie.
 
http://www.politicususa.com/en/weiner-gop-dirty-trick

I think this was written by Desh....

The latest dirty trick is the work of a right-wing operative who manipulated Representative Anthony Weiner’s (D-NY) Twitter account to send a picture to a young woman in an attempt to smear the Congressman’s image. Weiner is a rising star in the Democratic Party who is an unapologetic vocal critic of Republican’s legislative malfeasance and disregard for the American people. The particulars of the Weiner case are irrelevant to any serious discussion, although a thorough investigation exposed the culprit as a right-wing-nut-job whose purpose was discrediting Weiner to force him to resign; he began posting demands for Weiner’s resignation within seconds of the alleged untoward activity.
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This is the 'thorough investigation'.... http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2011/06/weiner-affair-close-to-solution-but-i.html
 
Bfgrn said:
Do you live on THIS planet?

Cooked

31:46 - 2 years ago

Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, who worked in the Pentagon and witnessed first-hand how a controversial intelligence operation was set up after 9/11, gives an insider’s account of how neoconservative Defense Department officials selected and manipulated intelligence to justify a U.S. invasion of Iraq. This video was recorded in January of 2004. This footage is from the DVD "HIJACKING CATASTROPHE: 9/11, Fear & the Selling of American Empire," produced by the Media Education Foundation. Tags: Karen Kwiatkowski Iraq 911 9/11 intelligence faulty false Dick Cheney George Bush Donald Rumsfeld Condi Rice OSP


Study: Bushies Lied 935 Times to Sell Iraq Invasion

Bush and his top officials waged a campaign of misinformation about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
January 24, 2008

President George W. Bush and seven of his administration's top officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, made at least 935 false statements in the two years following September 11, 2001, about the national security threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Nearly five years after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, an exhaustive examination of the record shows that the statements were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses.

On at least 532 separate occasions (in speeches, briefings, interviews, testimony, and the like), Bush and these three key officials, along with Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan, stated unequivocally that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (or was trying to produce or obtain them), links to Al Qaeda, or both. This concerted effort was the underpinning of the Bush administration's case for war.

It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to Al Qaeda. This was the conclusion of numerous bipartisan government investigations, including those by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (2004 and 2006), the 9/11 Commission, and the multinational Iraq Survey Group, whose "Duelfer Report" established that Saddam Hussein had terminated Iraq's nuclear program in 1991 and made little effort to restart it.

In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003. Not surprisingly, the officials with the most opportunities to make speeches, grant media interviews, and otherwise frame the public debate also made the most false statements, according to this first-ever analysis of the entire body of prewar rhetoric.
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We are in agreement that Bush led the nation to war based on false information. However, I do not believe it was intentional; the article you posted doesn't prove anything to the contrary. Again, this is the same false information that Bill Clinton believed, as I demonstrated. It is also the same information that Sen. Clinton, Sen. Kerry, and other Democratic Congressmen propagated when they voiced their support for the invasion. Did Bush cook up the false intel while he was governor of Texas, and while Bill Clinton was President of the United States?

In addition to being a partisan hack, you are a paranoid, delusional man. The fact that you believe every conservative in America is out to get you personally is evidence enough that you have psychological problems. Seriously, get help.
 
Weiner should resign.




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Bfgrn said:
What a pile of horseshit. He took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. HOW is he violating that oath and what 'sacred oath' did he break?
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I am sure he made some sort of wedding vows. Perhaps he avoided that or had his fingers crossed, but it still shows a willingness to violate an oath.
 
Bfgrn said:
And for you to want something that smells like a religious test is unconstitutional. There is no evidence that he had physical contact or even 'in person' contact with these women. Some of the contacts were before he was married.
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So you think having cyber-sex is not cheating??? And I am damn sure not pressing for any kind of religious test. I have been an outspoken critic and adamantly opposed to any such religious test.

But, believe it or not, basic honesty is not a religious trait.
 
Volt said:
We are in agreement that Bush led the nation to war based on false information. However, I do not believe it was intentional; the article you posted doesn't prove anything to the contrary. Again, this is the same false information that Bill Clinton believed, as I demonstrated. It is also the same information that Sen. Clinton, Sen. Kerry, and other Democratic Congressmen propagated when they voiced their support for the invasion. Did Bush cook up the false intel while he was governor of Texas, and while Bill Clinton was President of the United States?

In addition to being a partisan hack, you are a paranoid, delusional man. The fact that you believe every conservative in America is out to get you personally is evidence enough that you have psychological problems. Seriously, get help.
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You have major cognitive dysfunction. You don't know the difference between actions vs. rhetoric. It doesn't matter what Bill Clinton believed. Bill Clinton did NOT INVADE Iraq. That military action has a technical term that may be too big for you to comprehend. They call it WAR. The Clinton administration used sanctions against Saddam and Iraq.

Obviously you didn't watch the interview Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski. She clearly lays out how intel was cooked. It is also clear you are totally obtuse to the Office of Special Plans set up to undermine the CIA and FBI intel.

According to former Bush officials, all defense and intelligence sources, senior administration figures created a shadow agency of Pentagon analysts staffed mainly by ideological amateurs to compete with the CIA and its military counterpart, the Defence Intelligence Agency.

The agency, called the Office of Special Plans (OSP), was set up by the defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, to second-guess CIA information and operated under the patronage of hardline conservatives in the top rungs of the administration, the Pentagon and at the White House, including Vice-President Dick Cheney.

The ideologically driven network functioned like a shadow government, much of it off the official payroll and beyond congressional oversight. But it proved powerful enough to prevail in a struggle with the State Department and the CIA by establishing a justification for war.


We also know from the Downing Street Memo that the British didn't see Saddam as the number one threat in the world. The British believed he was being adequately controlled by Clinton's measures. And the memo solidly reinforces everything Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill says and everything Richard Clarke says... Bush LIED and people DIED.

Downing Street Memo
C reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. The NSC had no patience with the UN route, and no enthusiasm for publishing material on the Iraqi regime's record. There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action.

The Defence Secretary said that the US had already begun "spikes of activity" to put pressure on the regime. No decisions had been taken, but he thought the most likely timing in US minds for military action to begin was January, with the timeline beginning 30 days before the US Congressional elections.

The Foreign Secretary said he would discuss this with Colin Powell this week. It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided. But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbours, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran. We should work up a plan for an ultimatum to Saddam to allow back in the UN weapons inspectors. This would also help with the legal justification for the use of force.


BTW, conservatives in America are not out to get me personally. They are out to destroy democracy and replace it with some form of an aristocracy. That is what conservatives have done since man first walked upright. That you are unaware of that FACT is not surprising.
 
So the official excuse is "But he isn't the only one who lied!!"???
 
Weiner is a liar and a pervert.

He has no credibility.

His effectiveness has been compromised.

He has made a mockery of his office.

He should resign.



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WinterBorn said:
So you think having cyber-sex is not cheating??? And I am damn sure not pressing for any kind of religious test. I have been an outspoken critic and adamantly opposed to any such religious test.

But, believe it or not, basic honesty is not a religious trait.
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Can cyber sex create an illegitimate child?

The "original intent" of Article VI, paragraph 3 of the Constitution was avoiding any entanglement between church and state, or involving the government in any way as a determiner of religious beliefs or practices.
 
I have no idea what will become of Anthony Weiner now that he has tearfully confessed, at great length and in uncomfortable detail, to tweeting photos of his naked torso and various other clothed and unclothed body parts to at least six women who were not his wife.

I have great sympathy for his wife, and think Andrew Breitbart is odious.


Weiner's refusal to resign seems like a spasm from the guy he was until a week ago: the chesty liberal loudmouth who tore up conservatives on Fox News and never backed down.


Weiner may not realize it, but he's not that guy anymore.


He's a joke, his behavior was egregious, and he ought to do the decent thing and resign.




http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/06/anthony-weiner-should-resign/240032/
 
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I have no idea what will become of Anthony Weiner now that he has tearfully confessed, at great length and in uncomfortable detail, to tweeting photos of his naked torso and various other clothed and unclothed body parts to at least six women who were not his wife.

I have great sympathy for his wife, and think Andrew Breitbart is odious.


Weiner's refusal to resign seems like a spasm from the guy he was until a week ago: the chesty liberal loudmouth who tore up conservatives on Fox News and never backed down.


Weiner may not realize it, but he's not that guy anymore.


He's a joke, his behavior was egregious, and he ought to do the decent thing and resign.




http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/06/anthony-weiner-should-resign/240032/
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The causes Weiner is a strong articulate and vocal advocate for will not evaporate. I hope he stays and continues to make right wing corporatists in Congress squirm.


Go get them Anthony!
 
Topspin said:
Isn't Vitter still in congress how many widestancers called for him to quit?
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I can't speak for Yurt and his crew of widestancers, but Vitter should've quit too. BJ Clinton also should've resigned.

Anytime an elected official's effectiveness is eclipsed by a scandal and botched attempt at cover-up, they should have the common decency to get out.
 
Bfgrn said:
The causes Weiner is a strong articulate and vocal advocate for will not evaporate. I hope he stays and continues to make right wing corporatists in Congress squirm.
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There are not enough people in the Democratic party who can slug it out directly the way Weiner did.


In most cases I would think that his online activity is nobody's business but his (and once he was married, his wife's) and the other women's of course too.


But this isn't most cases.


He has run for office, asked for people's trust, and made himself a prominent champion of one side of an important political fight, a side that he has now embarrassed and let down.


his lack of judgment hurts not just him but many other people who relied on him and were his allies.


He has let them down, and he will hurt their cause every time he speaks.


He should go.




http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/06/poor-rep-weiner/240056/
 
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