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Where the hell did you get the 70% figure?
Huckabee? IN the lead? Really?
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Where the hell did you get the 70% figure?
His ass!
Dixie - In Memoriam
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2004:
Arkansas Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 746,382 75.0%
No 248,827 25.0%
Georgia Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 2,317,981 76.1%
No 729,705 23.9%
Kentucky Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 1,217,857 74.6%
No 415,233 25.4%
Michigan Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 2,690,819 58.6%
No 1,900,578 41.4%
Mississippi Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 924,653 86.1%
No 149,854 13.9%
Montana Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 294,056 66.5%
No 147,927 33.5%
North Dakota Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 222,899 73.3%
No 81,396 26.7%
Ohio Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 3,249,157 61.8%
No 2,011,168 38.2%
Oklahoma Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 1,075,079 75.6%
No 347,246 24.4%
Oregon - Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 979,049 56.9%
No 742,442 43.1%
Utah - Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 562,619 66.2%
No 286,697 33.8%
2006:
South Carolina Amendment 1:
Ban Same-Sex Marriage
Yes 818,894 78%
No 230,674 22%
South Dakota Amendment C:
Ban Same-Sex Marriage
Yes 172,237 52%
No 160,756 48%
Tennessee Amendment 1:
Ban Same-Sex Marriage
Yes 1,418,905 81%
No 327,162 19%
Virginia Ballot Question 1:
Ban Same-Sex Marriage
Yes 1,325,668 57%
No 1,003,967 43%
Wisconsin Referendum 1:
Ban Same-Sex Marriage
Yes 1,260,554 59%
No 861,554 41%
Colorado Amendment 43:
Ban Same-Sex Marriage
Yes 768,700 56%
No 612,155 44%
Idaho Amendment 2:
Ban Same-Sex Marriage
Yes 281,823 63%
No 163,191 37%
2008:
California Prop 8:
Recognizing Marriage is between a man and woman
Yes 7,001,084 52.24%
No 6,401,482 47.76%
Florida Amendment 2:
Protection of Traditional Marriage
Yes 4,645,602 62.1%
No 2,833,052 37.9%
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Now there is more if you need to review it, but I think it is more than abundantly clear, in every ballot initiative, in every possible way to word it, in even the most liberal states in the union, The People have rejected Gay Marriage by HUGE numbers. Keep in mind, these results are in states where the interest was great enough to get an initiative on the ballot, and the gay activist lobby spent millions of dollars promoting it and getting out the vote to pass Gay Marriage. The "average" is around 70% opposed. In some areas, such as Tennessee and Mississippi, it is in the high 80s, near 90%! So can we now put this to rest once and for all, and stop blathering about some silly activist "poll" that is misleading on how people feel about this issue?
Arkansas Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 746,382 75.0%
No 248,827 25.0%
Georgia Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 2,317,981 76.1%
No 729,705 23.9%
Kentucky Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 1,217,857 74.6%
No 415,233 25.4%
Michigan Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 2,690,819 58.6%
No 1,900,578 41.4%
Mississippi Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 924,653 86.1%
No 149,854 13.9%
Montana Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 294,056 66.5%
No 147,927 33.5%
North Dakota Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 222,899 73.3%
No 81,396 26.7%
Ohio Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 3,249,157 61.8%
No 2,011,168 38.2%
Oklahoma Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 1,075,079 75.6%
No 347,246 24.4%
Oregon - Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 979,049 56.9%
No 742,442 43.1%
Utah - Defense of Traditional Marriage
Yes 562,619 66.2%
No 286,697 33.8%
2006:
South Carolina Amendment 1:
Ban Same-Sex Marriage
Yes 818,894 78%
No 230,674 22%
South Dakota Amendment C:
Ban Same-Sex Marriage
Yes 172,237 52%
No 160,756 48%
Tennessee Amendment 1:
Ban Same-Sex Marriage
Yes 1,418,905 81%
No 327,162 19%
Virginia Ballot Question 1:
Ban Same-Sex Marriage
Yes 1,325,668 57%
No 1,003,967 43%
Wisconsin Referendum 1:
Ban Same-Sex Marriage
Yes 1,260,554 59%
No 861,554 41%
Colorado Amendment 43:
Ban Same-Sex Marriage
Yes 768,700 56%
No 612,155 44%
Idaho Amendment 2:
Ban Same-Sex Marriage
Yes 281,823 63%
No 163,191 37%
2008:
California Prop 8:
Recognizing Marriage is between a man and woman
Yes 7,001,084 52.24%
No 6,401,482 47.76%
Florida Amendment 2:
Protection of Traditional Marriage
Yes 4,645,602 62.1%
No 2,833,052 37.9%
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Now there is more if you need to review it, but I think it is more than abundantly clear, in every ballot initiative, in every possible way to word it, in even the most liberal states in the union, The People have rejected Gay Marriage by HUGE numbers. Keep in mind, these results are in states where the interest was great enough to get an initiative on the ballot, and the gay activist lobby spent millions of dollars promoting it and getting out the vote to pass Gay Marriage. The "average" is around 70% opposed. In some areas, such as Tennessee and Mississippi, it is in the high 80s, near 90%! So can we now put this to rest once and for all, and stop blathering about some silly activist "poll" that is misleading on how people feel about this issue?
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It isn't up to the people, just like racial discrimination is no longer up to the people! Fair is fair, right is right, equal rights and the pursuit of happiness for all citizens!
My point was not to discuss what the majority will support or will not support. My point is a basic theory of American Freedom....
Just because your God says something is wrong, is not a reason to make a law for all people banning that thing.
Thats Unamerican.
Just because your God says something is wrong, is not a reason to make a law for all people banning that thing.
Thats Unamerican.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Oh, but it IS up to the people, and it's NOT like racial discrimination because no one is being discriminated against. Gay people have the exact same rights as anyone else, to marry a person of the opposite sex, and they often do. No state is issuing marriage licenses on the basis of sexual preference. There is no inequality of rights, and we simply never have had the unfettered right to pursue whatever "happiness" we desire, there are a multitude of laws on the books which prohibit all sorts of behaviors that would make people happy, but they are not allowed to do. Society does indeed have the right to establish standards, and always have.
I have never been shown proof god actually said it! It is men telling others humans what they believe a god said to them! It has never been proven that it was god, I believe it is a faith issue and not all in these United States believe such stuff!
My point is that regardless of what you belvie your god says about the subject, that is not a basis for a law for others who have every right to beive in what ever God they choose, or not to belive in a God.
Exactly!
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Hate to break it to ya, but the Southern states are part of the United States. Unfortunately, what Southerners think, does matter, and has to be considered. I know you don't like that, but to only count what Northerners and Westerners think about something, and dismiss what Southerners think, is not honest or objective by any stretch of the imagination. You two asked where I came up with "70%" and I showed you direct results from the only "poll" that really matters. Do you have any similar "poll" to show the opposite? Nope... Gay Marriage has been defeated at the ballot box in every conceivable way.
It's not just because "my God" says it's wrong, it's because society has rejected it across the board. What is "un-American" is suggesting that the will of the people doesn't matter, and the State has some sort of "right" to subject the citizens to what it wants to do instead, or what activists lobby to have it do in their name. That's wrong, that's flat out contradictory to our way of governing, and our Constitution.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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No one has mentioned God. My belief in God is not the Christians belief in God, and we are a nation of all kinds of beliefs. You want to make this about God, but the fact remains, a vast and overwhelming number of people simply disagree with you on this, and it doesn't matter if they believe in the same God or not. My actual opposition to Gay Marriage is completely non-religious, has nothing to do with a religious moral belief, and I have articulated it numerous times. But, we have MANY laws on the books, which are directly related to someone's 'religious' morality. To suggest we shouldn't be allowed to do that, is completely ignorant and foolish. Why do you think we have laws against "indecent exposure?" Why is masturbating in public forbidden? Why can't I be allowed to "abort abortionists from society?" There are any number of things we have laws against, which are rooted in the moral values of the people, in fact, most all of our laws are, in some way, rooted in those moral values. That's kinda what "law" is about.
You truly do not understand the Constitution and the three separate branches of government by this statement...it leaves no doubt, now, not that I ever had any doubt that you didn't get it! It is so that the minority is protected from the majority in civil rights cases like the gays wanting civil union, a civil contract, to be together legally.
Where do you find you authority as far as God, you are not a Christian, right? So does he talk to you directly and tell you what he wants. I think it would be a lot easier if he did come out and talk to humans directly instead of going through some of the whack jobs he sends to preach to them!
GO back and read this thread, its all about how Huckabee bases his opposition to same sex marriage on what he understands Gods position to be.
1. Moral values are not the same as what God belives.
2. Masterbating in public harms people who cannot avoid seeing a blatent display of sexuality. Its not about public morality, its about harming others.
Jesus talks to Dixie in the shower and gives him financial advice.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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You are absolutely correct here! I don't understand the warped and twisted Liberal maligning of our Constitution, and never will. You should completely give up trying to explain it to me, because I don't think you'll ever be able to!
Gays are not being denied something on the basis of their gayness! If Gay people had "GAY" written on their foreheads, and every time they went to a probate judge to get a marriage license, the people told them... Sorry, we don't give marriage licenses to "GAY" people... then you would have a complaint of discrimination, but that isn't happening. You are attempting to redefine the word "marriage" and THEN claim you are being discriminated against. It would be the same thing as if I wanted to redefine the meaning of "abortion" to include murdering people who obtain abortions! Why can't I "abort" you from society? Because the law says "abortion" is something different from "murder" and they aren't the same thing. Am I being denied my "rights" because I can't kill abortionists? They can kill unborn fetuses! Why don't I have the same rights? You can't CHANGE the definition of something, then claim you aren't being given the right! It's just beyond retarded! MARRIAGE is the union of a MAN and WOMAN... Same Sex Unions are NOT Marriage! These are two distinctly different things, in spite of your desires to make them the same! Try and get that through your pinhead!
Dixie - In Memoriam
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And what the fuck is wrong with that? Doesn't he have the 1st Amendment right to freely exercise his religion? The President isn't a Dictator! He doesn't get to decide whether Gay Marriage is made legal or illegal! It's not up to him! He IS entitled to have his opinion, and it can most certainly be based on what his religious beliefs are! Who the fuck are YOU to say otherwise?
What physical harm does seeing someone masturbate cause? Who gives you the authority to determine what God "believes?" Morality in general, is based on some level of spiritual belief, to some degree. At some point, every moral value that humans have, can be traced to some spiritual belief found in mankind. You don't have to believe that, I can't make you accept it, but that is just a fact of life. We wear clothes and behave decently in public because of someone's moral values, rooted in their religious faith. We don't allow masturbation in public because it is perverted and disgusting and we are a civilized society, not a bunch of wild monkeys!
They aren't denied civil unions/marriage based on their gayness, ahahahahahahahaha, this is the best post yet! Dixie! I love the circular reasoning! I do, I really do! It is splitting hairs is what it is Dixie! Good spin Dixie, but you would so lose in a court of law with this argument!