Things are bad. What's the solution?

Dixie said:
*sigh* China is a very old dynasty, they were around before there was ever a such thing as an American dollar, and they will probably be around long after. We haven't incetivized that, it's how things have been there for centuries... millenniums... it's how things will be whether we buy their stuff or not. Just like it will rain whether we wear raincoats or not! At least through trade, we have some means of leverage with the government, we can effect some change. Human rights conditions are still deplorable in China, but they are markedly better than before Nixon instigated trade relations with them.



But if you cut trade relations, you effectively kill people... don't you understand this? If no one is buying China's shit, they can't afford to feed the people who are supposed to be making the shit, so they kill them!



I think you are a moron who likes to repeat words like "protectionism" and "international globalist fascism" and you really don't have a fucking clue what they mean, you just think it makes you sound smart. You really seem to have more in common with pinhead liberals than myself. All of this compassion you have for 'wage slaves' and 'working conditions' in other places... as opposed to American capitalism and economic prosperity. And you know, that's fine if you actually had a plan to address those problems, but what you suggest, would make the situation worse, while costing us all more money for our products.
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Yes. We do incentivize it now with our orders. We only further enrich the regime.

Chinese citizens would be better off without our dollars enriching their slavemasters.

I believe our policies should not force americans into a labor market with captive slaves.


And you are a protectionist if you support tarrifs and "taxes which incentivize domestic production".

You can keep putting my terms in quotes, but that doesn't discredit their accuracy.

Stop blowing smoke and man up to your beliefs. You're a protectionist.
 
Dixie said:
Get rid of Democrats in Congress.
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Get rid of them along with liberal Republicans. Cut the Federal budget in half by removing all programs not enumerated by Article I Section 8 of the Constitution. Impeach all judges and elected officials who have taken the oath to defend the Constitution and who have not done so.
 
DonQuixote said:
predictably, the dems blame the reps and the reps blame the dems, but solutions are non-existent

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NO. The solution is protectionism, but everyone is too brainwashed to consider it.

Necon/libertards are convinced it's socialism. Libs are convinced it must be a nazi idea.

Get off it people. It's neither.

It's the rational solution to unemployment and the consequent sputtering of demand.
 
Damn Yankee said:
No it won't. We've gone through some radical changes in the past and just got stronger. We had limited government before and it worked great.
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It used to be that companies were loyal to the home nation, at least to some degree.

Now they just want to outsource as many jobs as possible for the bottom line, regardless of the impact on the rest of the people. And they inject scads of money into the election to make sure government align with their internationalist fascist agenda.

How will shrinking government make jobs come back when it's usage of cheap overseas labor that is the problem?
 
AssHatZombie said:
It used to be that companies were loyal to the home nation, at least to some degree.

Now they just want to outsource as many jobs as possible for the bottom line, regardless of the impact on the rest of the people. And they inject scads of money into the election to make sure government align with their internationalist fascist agenda.

How will shrinking government make jobs come back when it's usage of cheap overseas labor that is the problem?
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Corporations ship jobs overseas to avoid punitive taxation and regulation here in the US. Shrink government back to its intended size and all those disincentives go away.
 
Damn Yankee said:
Corporations ship jobs overseas to avoid punitive taxation and regulation here in the US. Shrink government back to its intended size and all those disincentives go away.
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No. Labor costs are also a main factor. And gutting the government won't change that. While corporations may hate taxes and regulation, eliminating them won't really solve the problem.
 
AssHatZombie said:
No. Labor costs are also a main factor. And gutting the government won't change that. While corporations may hate taxes and regulation, eliminating them won't really solve the problem.
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Three things effect labor costs:
1. Supply of workers. When government workers are fired they will need jobs, therefore the supply of workers will go up allowing salaries to decrease.
2. Unions. Government won't be able to bolster them, wages will be lowered.
3. Regulation. Cut them and wages will be lowered.
 
Damn Yankee said:
Three things effect labor costs:
1. Supply of workers. When government workers are fired they will need jobs, therefore the supply of workers will go up allowing salaries to decrease.
2. Unions. Government won't be able to bolster them, wages will be lowered.
3. Regulation. Cut them and wages will be lowered.
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Will wages go down to 20 cents an hour?

You're a blithering fool.
 
LOL

Wages will go down, taxes will go down, and costs will go down. Its a win-win for everybody, except big government types.
 
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