Dixie - In Memoriam
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Ahh... Witness the stunning transformation of the anarchist butterfly, from his cocoon of extremist rhetoric, into a full fledged Democrat Liberal right before our very eyes!
Things are bad. What's the solution?
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Ahh... Witness the stunning transformation of the anarchist butterfly, from his cocoon of extremist rhetoric, into a full fledged Democrat Liberal right before our very eyes!
Freddy Figbottom
Was it me?
Label me whatever you want. Gutting the government won't stop corporations from seeking cheaper labor overseas. That's just a fact. Try dealing with it.
The title of the thread is "Things are bad. What is the solution?", not "Things are bad, what do neocons always want in all situations, regardless of their impact on society?"
Freddy Figbottom
Was it me?
That's the going international wage slave rate. So even in your scenario, citizens still won't be employable.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Spoken like a true pro-union liberal! The transformation is almost complete!
Freddy Figbottom
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We dont need unions to maintain the middle class. We just need to keep slaves out of the labor pool. We should do this on a moral basis as well as an economic one.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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If we implemented your ideas, the unions would become stronger. But then, the unions support your viewpoints. I think you look excellent in your Democrat dress.. it fits you perfectly!
Canceled.LTroll.3
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Did "they" do a "self evident" study for that, too?
Freddy Figbottom
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Most people aren't in unions, don't think about unions. All american workers would benefit from reasonable protectionism without unions.
The unions might also think 2+2=4, does that mean math is socialism?
Dixie - In Memoriam
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We're not talking about math, we're talking about labor. That's kinda what unions do.
Canceled.LTroll.3
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Is that self evident?
Bfgrn
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So the Republican party that destroyed America can finish building the coffin?
Freddy Figbottom
Was it me?
It's a metaphor, dumbfuck. Being a dumbfuck is totally what you do. Not just kinda.
Freddy Figbottom
Was it me?
We're still waiting for a suggestion for recovery besides destroying the middle class, as damn yankee suggested.
Bfgrn
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The labor movement and unions played a huge role creating the robust middle class that blossomed from the New Deal to the Great Society. It is not a just a coincidence that middle class problems began when union busting began.
The Republican party went from this:
"Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this country—they are America."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower
To THIS!
"We're going to crush labor as a political entity"
Grover Norquist - Republican economic guru
Freddy Figbottom
Was it me?
But all american laborers will benefit from protectionist measures. Wouldn't you agree?
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
If that's all they can produce then that's what they are worth, but Americans know how to use tools and technology and are more productive than their counterparts. Stop being a moron.
Bfgrn
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I'm not for protectionism, because there is little left to protect. I'm for developing new technologies and new industries that can't be outsourced.
We are already behind China and other countries in green energy development. We better get on our horse, or face moving from dependence on the Middle East for oil to dependence on China for green energy.
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"
Albert Einstein
Freddy Figbottom
Was it me?
Look dixie, libtard unions aren't for protectionism like you thought.
What can't be outsourced?
Green technology isn't immune from outsourcing. Please explain your irrational belief.
That's why we should stop believing that globalization is good.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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LMFAO... You can't go by what one idiot moron pinhead says today... that could change tomorrow if The One says he supports protectionist policies! Hell, it could change with his very next sentence, these people have no problem completely contradicting themselves in the same breath!
What you are advocating... stop trading with China... would strengthen the unions in America. And while most "jobs" aren't unionized, most production and manufacturing jobs, certainly ARE!
Freddy Figbottom
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It would benefit all american workers. Dont hate on american workers just because some of them are unionized. That's pretty stupid.
I would be happy with any protectionism, just as you would be happy with tariffs, and taxes which penalize outsourcing, and are also, therefore, a protectionist.