Paid for by Donors? That was a lie.

martin said:
You're the one who seems triggered here and elsewhere on this forum. Some question: "What do you believe that is difference from what Marx espoused about capitalism"? Not even a lucid question. Nor a relevant one if made lucid since like almost all liberals I'm a capitalist myself.
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really/ So you oppose Mamdami and his grocery store scheme? Because if you do, I have never seen you start a thread about it.

I can wait.
 
Teflon Don said:
really/ So you oppose Mamdami and his grocery store scheme? Because if you do, I have never seen you start a thread about it.

I can wait.
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Really/So you oppose Trump taking taxpayer money and having the government pick winners and losers across a bunch of industries in a way that parallels socialism/Crony Capitalism?

i can wait while you show us some threads where you started a thread about it.
 
QP! said:
Yes but that is Trump and WH lies, as Trump tries to tie getting his Ballroom paid for by PRETENDING it is part of the over security requirements, when it is not. And the Judge NEVER disallowed any progress on the 'security aspects of the underground structure'. How do we know that? Trump and his WH admitted it prior.

So there is no reason that Trump cannot submit to Congress the APPROPRIATE costs for the under ground secure bunker while also submitting to the law and allowing the process for the above ground structure (ballroom) to go thru Congress, as the law demands.


Judge halts Trump’s ballroom construction, permits bunker work to proceed​


...“The exception for underground national security facilities does not include the proposed ballroom because Defendants themselves distinguished between below-ground and above-ground construction, stating that ‘the below-surface work is driven by national security concerns independent of the above-grade construction,'” ...

Leon said that the administration does not “explain why the proposed 90,000-square-foot ballroom — the source of the National Trust’s claimed injury and likely unauthorized by statue — is required for security purposes now.”...

The judge clarified that the defendants may “cover and secure the below-ground construction while litigation proceeds.”...
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ThatOwlWoman said:
If you want any sort of credibility, which seems doubtful, you can stop calling everyone who disagrees with you "marxists." There are no such things anymore. We are all capitalist-socialists living in a capitalist-socialist country.
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Well, I'm sure some of them in TD's mind are Maoists, Anarchists, and assorted Socialists...
 
QP! said:
Really/So you oppose Trump taking taxpayer money and having the government pick winners and losers across a bunch of industries in a way that parallels socialism/Crony Capitalism?
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He'd be doing what Democrats had done and wanted to do for decades. They'd no doubt be pleased with this. And, yes, I oppose doing this almost entirely. As with almost everything, there are exceptions.
 
christiefan915 said:
We objected to him destroying the WH for another vanity project. Magas never even uttered the word "ballroom" before trump told them we needed one. With his ballroom, that cheesy outdoor-restaurant patio, and an overload of gilding, he wants to remake a historical site into Mar-a-Lago. And all the maga sycophants bow and scrape and say "yes sir, whatever you want, sir."
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Wait, I thought Mar-a-Lago was worth like $1 million. A judge and the state attorney general in New York said so...
 
T. A. Gardner said:
He'd be doing what Democrats had done and wanted to do for decades. They'd no doubt be pleased with this. And, yes, I oppose doing this almost entirely. As with almost everything, there are exceptions.
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As always your bias and TDS are showing.

What you point at is not unique to Dems and we can probably go cite for cite on examples.

But as always Trump is taking it to a new level picking winners and losers in perpetual long term taxpayer investments with no exit plan.
 
Teflon Don said:
I keep asking why it bothers you to be called one, but nobody responds. What do you believe that is difference from what Marx espoused about capitalism?
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Speaking for myself, being called a Marxist doesn't bother me at all. I only like pointing out how ludicrous it is to use that archaic term as though it was one of the worst things there is. It's like calling you a Yeti. Neither have any meaning anymore.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Speaking for myself, being called a Marxist doesn't bother me at all. I only like pointing out how ludicrous it is to use that archaic term as though it was one of the worst things there is. It's like calling you a Yeti. Neither have any meaning anymore.
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He has no idea when he calls someone marxist, It is evident he never completed HS , Just MAGA spewage

Just showing his low IQ
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
It wouldn't need completion if this autocratic fake-gilt-loving corrupt egotistical POS had left it alone in the first place. The proper path would have been to ask congress to poll their constituents to see if 1) we wanted the change, and 2) should taxpayers cover it. If the majority approved, then like any other government project bids should have been requested, along with professional architectural renderings of the proposal. Once the contractor was chosen, the work would have begun and (maybe) been completed within a speciiic time frame. It truly would then be part of the "people's house," not the wet dream of a flaccid old would-be king.
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Truly a simple concept, isn't it?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
How long ago was that? lol It looks to me as though they just reflexively feel compelled to take the opposite POV whenever *anything* about the #FatFascistFelon is criticized no matter how minor or major.
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Sometime just before the 2024 election, I think. Maybe it was more gradual than that. I just have a recollection of Damocles and Terry both being reasonable, rational, reasoned people. Neither of them could be farther from those things now. It's been like watching pickling in time lapse.
 
Teflon Don said:
I keep asking why it bothers you to be called one, but nobody responds. What do you believe that is difference from what Marx espoused about capitalism?

If you can't explain it, then the name sticks.

I have given you marxists ample opportunity to explain, but you can't.

What is funny is that no matter the thread, you marxists get fixated on that one word to the exclusion of all else. Seems odd. The term really triggers you guys. There has to be a reason. I am honestly curious.
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What are you curious about? They think you're using the term "Marxist" incorrectly. That's been explained to you ad nauseam.
 
Even Trump could figure out that the people did not want a Gold Ballroom. So he tore up the White House forcing it to be built. Most people respected or honored the White House. Not Trump. Tear it down and built the Trump Gold Ballroom and Souvenir shop. Once the WH is half demolished, they will have to do what he wants. We can't leave it looking like the mess Trump made. Trump is such an asshole.
 
Jarod said:
I care about the lie, and I care about the money.
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You're the one lying. There is no money about which you get to care (donors can donate).

Jarod said:
I mostly care about the destruction to the White House,
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Construction, not destruction. You weren't on the planning board, were you?

Jarod said:
I do not have a problem with a Ballroom being built,
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Yes you do, because Trump is building it. You are lying again. You haven't made an honest post on JPP as far as I can tell.

Jarod said:
I do care about the failure to follow the process
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All Executive power is vested in the President. Read the Constitution. If Congress isn't being asked to pay for it, Congress doesn't get any say.

Jarod said:
because the process would ensure it is it is architecturally consistent with the other portions of the White House,
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The person with all Executive power made that determination.
 
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