Should we repeal "Don't ask, don't tell?"

[Socrtease]

Soc, I was being silly.

Ok, Just didn't want you to be mad that I sorta hijacked your poll.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Yurt is proud of the fact that many states are actually in violation of the US constitution by refusing to recognize the gay marriages of other states but are protected in their violation of the constitution by the anti-constitutional DOMA.

you are a fucking moron for stating this

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

There are numerous differences in the constitutional rights that you and I enjoy, and those enjoyed by those in the military.

The 1st Amendment does not apply to active duty members of the military. There is no freedom of speech or right to assemble.

The 4th Amendment protects us from unreasonable search & siezure, but military personnel can be searched anytime they are on base or ship.

The 8th Amendment would certainly prohibit restricting someone to 3 days on bread & water, but the military can still do that.

While there is no precedent for what I'm about to say, were it presented, it would certainly win.

Article 6, section 1, paragraph 2:"This constitution, and the laws of the United States, which shall be made in the pursuance thereof: and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land".

Basically it says the Constitution is the highest law. The UCMJ, the governing law for the military (United States Code, Article 10, Chapter 47), derives it's authority from the constitution (via Article 1, Section 8). Thus it cannot deny rights that congress has no right to deny.

 

[Canceled1]

Knew that one person who would vote no would be Southern Moron. Should have seen the other would be webbway. I am really suprised that Ice and loyal are not on board furiously beating off SM and telling him what a genius he is.

Wassa matter Socky? You running out of ideas to get off sexually so now you have to call on some twisted mental image to get you up and excited? Why not try a manlift?

Freak!

 

[Canceled1]

Only a matter of time, they would probably give him a blowjob only he doesn't like them.

Quit playing out your wet dreams on the internet, Tom. Too bad becuz it's obvious you want to pucker up for someone, you little fruitball poof!

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

There are numerous differences in the constitutional rights that you and I enjoy, and those enjoyed by those in the military.

The 1st Amendment does not apply to active duty members of the military. There is no freedom of speech or right to assemble.

The 4th Amendment protects us from unreasonable search & siezure, but military personnel can be searched anytime they are on base or ship.

The 8th Amendment would certainly prohibit restricting someone to 3 days on bread & water, but the military can still do that.

true...and unless there is a draft, it is by choice...you bring up a good point

as to the last...i would imagine that would be found to violate the 8th if an inmate were to bring such a case...

 

[Minister of Truth]

Anyone ever consider the legal argument that the draft violates the involuntary servitude clause of the 13th? Obviously it did not yet exist during the Civil War, but we have used it since in WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam...

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Anyone ever consider the legal argument that the draft violates the involuntary servitude clause of the 13th? Obviously it did not yet exist during the Civil War, but we have used it since in WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam...

no...because the government is not a servitude owner...you are owned by the government and its legal, because the government says so....

don't forget that wee document you signed at 18

 

[Minister of Truth]

no...because the government is not a servitude owner...you are owned by the government and its legal, because the government says so....

don't forget that wee document you signed at 18

I signed an enlistment contract at 18

As for the selective service registration, I was merely following the law, and not my heart.

 

[DamnYankee]

Who is the great American?

Me.

 

[DamnYankee]

And strange, that you're the one who didn't serve, but me, Soc, Damo, and Winter did.....

And how are you better than any of us again?

Since when is "serving" a prerequisite?

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Since when is "serving" a prerequisite?

So what have you given for this country again? For freedom? And how are you better than any of us again?

 

[DamnYankee]

So what have you given for this country again? For freedom? And how are you better than any of us again?

You first- answer the question. Again: Since when is "serving" a prerequisite?

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

You first- answer the question. Again: Since when is "serving" a prerequisite?

Serving your country? Always. Now you.

 

[Socrtease]

You first- answer the question. Again: Since when is "serving" a prerequisite?

Since when EVER does voting to keep DADT make you a better american than someone that served their country.

 

[DamnYankee]

Serving your country? Always. Now you.

So you have to "serve your country" in order to be a great American. Is that your position?

 

[DamnYankee]

Since when EVER does voting to keep DADT make you a better american than someone that served their country.

Because unlike you I care about the future of this country.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

So you have to "serve your country" in order to be a great American. Is that your position?

You must be slow. Maybe this will make it more clear:

Y

E

S

That slow enough for you?

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Because unlike you I care about the future of this country.

And how does keeping DADT negatively affect our country?

 

[DamnYankee]

You must be slow. Maybe this will make it more clear:

90% of Americans never served, douchebag.