Mosque being built at Ground zero

[Damocles]

ID,

There is a reason that they are trying to make a run around that restriction by making a nearby building into a historical landmark and thus making it so the Mosque cannot be built, it isn't because they could simply say, "Mosques would be controversial here so they are not allowed."

 

[Sammy Jankis]

It is unconstitutional if it is based simply on the form of religion. "Shall make no law" really does mean no law, even when it is done to make you feel better.

Local authorities should step in to deny permits to terrorist organizations like the islamic faith.

Would you be for or against reassessing what counts as a "religion"?

You have all your little masonic arguments for the destruction of america in line. The problem for you is we all see through your bullshit.

Just shut your idiot face for once.

 

[Damocles]

blah blah blah. You're so full of shit your eyes are brown.

Islamic terrorists get off on stupidity like yours.

Translation:
(Crap, Damo just handed me an AHZ ass-flavored shake and is feeding me my own behind through a straw!)

I know you are right, and that changing the foundation of our freedoms this way would be bowing to terrorism and giving them a victory. But I really am scared of Muslims so much that I'd sell my Grandma to make them go away, so I'll try to say that those freedoms and limitations are unimportant by mocking you rather than dealing with the reality that those restrictions apply here.

/Translation.

 

[Damocles]

Local authorities should step in to deny permits to terrorist organizations like the islamic faith.

Would you be for or against reassessing what counts as a "religion"?

You have all your little masonic arguments for the destruction of america in line. The problem for you is we all see through your bullshit.

Just shut your idiot face for once.

Sure, reassess, so long as we go through the proper channels. Again, I believe you would be entirely unsuccessful in attempting to deny Islam as a religion, and I explained why. Just as you would be unsuccessful in denying the religion of Christianity for the same reasons.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Sure, reassess, so long as we go through the proper channels. Again, I believe you would be entirely unsuccessful in attempting to deny Islam as a religion, and I explained why. Just as you would be unsuccessful in denying the religion of Christianity for the same reasons.

But in reality you just want to accept a terrorist organization's sattelite indocrination center right where the trade center was, and fight for their rights to do it, like the little traitor you are.

You are misguied. Seek help. Feel good about your constitutional zealotry on this one. Meanwhile you see no problem discriminating against white men at the workplace. You believe in the constitution selectively as it supports your agenda to destroy america.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Translation:
(Crap, Damo just handed me an AHZ ass-flavored shake and is feeding me my own behind through a straw!)

I know you are right, and that changing the foundation of our freedoms this way would be bowing to terrorism and giving them a victory. But I really am scared of Muslims so much that I'd sell my Grandma to make them go away, so I'll try to say that those freedoms and limitations are unimportant by mocking you rather than dealing with the reality that those restrictions apply here.

/Translation.

You are wrong. mindlessly refusing to recognize ACTUAL threats to our freedom under the guise of religious tolerance is a perversion of our constitution.

 

[Damocles]

But in reality you just want to accept a terrorist organization's sattelite indocrination center right where the trade center was, and fight for their rights to do it, like the little traitor you are.

You are misguied. Seek help. Feel good about your constitutional zealotry on this one. Meanwhile you see no problem discriminating against white men at the workplace. You believe in the constitution selectively as it supports your agenda to destroy america.

You are weak and scared, you fear so much you are willing to undermine our nation. I am sad for you.

Anyway. It is my opinion that we should fight it by showing Muslims that this is an unacceptable action through using the same rights they would use to build the Mosque.

Gather and protest, if we show that it is fully and totally unacceptable and they choose to build the Mosque elsewhere, then we win. If we undermine our own constitution to do it through government, then they win. If we do not have popular support enough to gather, then what will be, will be.

 

[Damocles]

You are wrong. mindlessly refusing to recognize ACTUAL threats to our freedom under the guise of religious tolerance is a perversion of our constitution.

Translation:

Yes, I am scared.

/Translation

You are a weak man, AHZ, how does that ass-flavored shake taste?

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Damo is as anti-american as any liberal on here.

 

[Canceled2]

It is unconstitutional if it is based simply on the form of religion. "Shall make no law" really does mean no law, even when it is done to make you feel better.

Denying a permit is not making a law against practicing Islam. Churches are denied building permits or sometimes to even occupy certain buildings ALL the time for various reasons, usually due to traffic impacts and tax reasons, though it is not predjudicial to look at all imapcts, including emotional ones...honest! City Planners are charged with the responsibility to even consider controversial impacts Damo! The City Council does not have a final say or even a deciding say...but they are obviously not listening to the majority of their constituents who are against this building at this close proximity to radical islam's 9/11 attack.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Denying a permit is not making a law against practicing Islam. Churches are denied building permits or sometimes to even occupy certain buildings ALL the time for various reasons, usually due to traffic impacts and tax reasons, though it is not predjudicial to look at all imapcts, including emotional ones...honest! City Planners are charged with the responsibility to even consider controversial impacts Damo! The City Council does not have a final say or even a deciding say...but they are obviously not listening to the majority of their constituents who are against this building at this close proximity to radical islam's 9/11 attack.

Tim McVeigh was a Methodist. Should they ban building Methodist Church's in Oklahoma City?

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Translation:

Yes, I am scared.

/Translation

You are a weak man, AHZ, how does that ass-flavored shake taste?

Translation:

I am a weak-ass america hating noahide fascist hung up on legalistic arguments pretending to be a patriot. I know my veneer of patriotism is weakening because now all i have are ad hominem attacks.

/Translation.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Tim McVeigh was a Methodist. Should they ban building Methodist Church's in Oklahoma City?

BUt methodism is not the source of his ideas regarding violence. In islam the case is different. This an important point.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

BUt methodism is not the source of his ideas regarding violence. In islam the case is different. This an important point.

No, right wing political ideology was. Should we then ban Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Michael Savage who feed this right wing terrorism with their propaganda?

 

[Sammy Jankis]

No, right wing political ideology was. Should we then ban Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Michael Savage who feed this right wing terrorism with their propaganda?

those guys don't advocate violence against the government. I defy you to find one instance of it.


I think there are liberal methodists too. So you're defeated twice here.

 

[Timshel]

Totalitarianism can come in the name of Christ, Islam, atheism or some nationalistic racist bs. But, not from us Jews. Death to all the anti-Naugahydes!

"I believe in only one thing: liberty; but I do not believe in liberty enough to want to force it upon anyone." – H.L. Mencken

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Totalitarianism can come in the name of Christ, Islam, atheism or some nationalistic racist bs. But, not from us Jews. Death to all the anti-Naugahydes!

"I believe in only one thing: liberty; but I do not believe in liberty enough to want to force it upon anyone." – H.L. Mencken

But currently, the greatest fear is totalitarianism from islam.

You jews are the inventors of racist nationalism.

Israel is an apartheid state similar to S. africa.

But all Nationalism is not racist. Nationalism just means a government functions to improve the lives of a majority of citizenry through sensible policy. Think of it as the opposite of the globalist anti-national belief that the state functions merely to subjugate the needs of the population to the desires of internationalist fascist multinational corporation and bankers.

 

[Minister of Truth]

But currently, the greatest fear is totalitarianism from islam.

You jews are the inventors of racist nationalism.

Israel is an apartheid state similar to S. africa.

But all Nationalism is not racist. Nationalism just means a government functions to improve the lives of a majority of citizenry through sensible policy. Think of it as the opposite of the globalist anti-national belief that the state functions merely to subjugate the needs of the population to the desires of internationalist fascist multinational corporation and bankers.

If Israel is like old S. Africa, then how come Arabs have full citizenship and participate in government? I dislike the fact that Israelis have camped out in the West Bank, and the fact that we continue to fund them unnecessarily, but the apartheid reference is bogus.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

If Israel is like old S. Africa, then how come Arabs have full citizenship and participate in government? I dislike the fact that Israelis have camped out in the West Bank, and the fact that we continue to fund them unnecessarily, but the apartheid reference is bogus.

Yeah. I think they can shine shoes if they bow low enough.

There are race based checkpoints. Different roads for jews etc.

It's s. africa all over again.



Let's keep arguing this. Zionist racism will be further exposed.

 

[Damocles]

Denying a permit is not making a law against practicing Islam. Churches are denied building permits or sometimes to even occupy certain buildings ALL the time for various reasons, usually due to traffic impacts and tax reasons, though it is not predjudicial to look at all imapcts, including emotional ones...honest! City Planners are charged with the responsibility to even consider controversial impacts Damo! The City Council does not have a final say or even a deciding say...but they are obviously not listening to the majority of their constituents who are against this building at this close proximity to radical islam's 9/11 attack.

Again, "usually due to reasons not the religion"...

In this case they already have the permits. If they take them away because of the religion it will be unconstitutional government intervention in a religion. So their goal is to end-run it by making a nearby building an historical landmark. It is my opinion that we shouldn't do an end-run on the constitution, instead we should attack it head on through protest.