The War in Ukraine

Scott said:
Jacques Baud is not a "joke". Here's some excerpts from his french Wikipedia page:
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Jacques Baud , born on April 1 , 1955, is a former Swiss army colonel, strategic analyst , intelligence and terrorism specialist.

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Biography​

Between 1983 and 1990, Jacques Baud was a member of the Swiss Strategic Intelligence Service , in charge of Warsaw Pact forces east of the Iron Curtain and around the world.

In 1995, due to his knowledge of Africa and anti -personnel mines , he was sent on mission to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees in Goma (then in Zaire ), as head of security for Rwandan refugee camps in Zaire, in order to prevent ethnic cleansing . In 1997, he was sent to found a project to contribute to the fight against anti-personnel mines . He was sent as an expert to the Mine Action Service of the United Nations Department of Peacekeeping Operations in New York.

In 2002, he was hired at the Centre for International Security Policy (CPSI) at the Federal Department of Foreign Affairs , a newly created Swiss institution. In 2005, the United Nations asked him to head the first multidisciplinary civil-military intelligence centre ( Joint Mission Analysis Centre (JMAC)) of the United Nations Mission in Sudan ( Khartoum ). In 2009-2011, he was called to New York as Chief of Policy and Doctrine in the Office of Military Affairs of the Department of Peacekeeping Operations (DPKO). There, he worked in particular on civil-military operations, the improvement of operational intelligence, the integration of women in peacekeeping operations and the protection of civilians. In 2011, he was called by the African Union to head the Research Department of the International Peace Support Training Centre (IPSTC) in Nairobi ( Kenya ). At the end of his mandate, he was appointed Head of the fight against the proliferation of small arms and against mines of the Political Affairs and Security Policy Division at NATO in Brussels.
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Source:
fr.wikipedia.org

Jacques Baud — Wikipédia

fr.wikipedia.org fr.wikipedia.org

So if this highly credentialized man actually believes that Putin didn't poison his detractors, I'd take note. Speaking of credentials, what is your source or sources that Putin -did- poison his detractors? We're not even getting into the fact that "detractors" is a rather vague category.
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You may think anything you want, I find him to be a joke.
 
Phantasmal said:
Scott said:
Alright, so your first claim is that Putin isn't honest. Do you have any evidence for this claim? As to your second claim, I think we have to define what is meant by "opponents and detractors". If we're talking about people who are trying to topple the Russian government and/or kill him, I'd say that most if not all leaders would naturally try to take out said opponents before they themselves are taken out. If you're talking of simple political dissent, then by all means, provide some evidence for your claim if you can.
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History shows us Putin is dishonest and a murderer. I do not understand anyone supporting or believing this man.
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You can make claims about anyone or anything. I asked if you had any evidence for your claim.
 
Phantasmal said:
Scott said:
Jacques Baud is not a "joke". Here's some excerpts from his french Wikipedia page:
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Jacques Baud , born on April 1 , 1955, is a former Swiss army colonel, strategic analyst , intelligence and terrorism specialist.

[snip]

Biography​

Between 1983 and 1990, Jacques Baud was a member of the Swiss Strategic Intelligence Service , in charge of Warsaw Pact forces east of the Iron Curtain and around the world.

In 1995, due to his knowledge of Africa and anti -personnel mines , he was sent on mission to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees in Goma (then in Zaire ), as head of security for Rwandan refugee camps in Zaire, in order to prevent ethnic cleansing . In 1997, he was sent to found a project to contribute to the fight against anti-personnel mines . He was sent as an expert to the Mine Action Service of the United Nations Department of Peacekeeping Operations in New York.

In 2002, he was hired at the Centre for International Security Policy (CPSI) at the Federal Department of Foreign Affairs , a newly created Swiss institution. In 2005, the United Nations asked him to head the first multidisciplinary civil-military intelligence centre ( Joint Mission Analysis Centre (JMAC)) of the United Nations Mission in Sudan ( Khartoum ). In 2009-2011, he was called to New York as Chief of Policy and Doctrine in the Office of Military Affairs of the Department of Peacekeeping Operations (DPKO). There, he worked in particular on civil-military operations, the improvement of operational intelligence, the integration of women in peacekeeping operations and the protection of civilians. In 2011, he was called by the African Union to head the Research Department of the International Peace Support Training Centre (IPSTC) in Nairobi ( Kenya ). At the end of his mandate, he was appointed Head of the fight against the proliferation of small arms and against mines of the Political Affairs and Security Policy Division at NATO in Brussels.
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Source:
fr.wikipedia.org

Jacques Baud — Wikipédia

fr.wikipedia.org fr.wikipedia.org

So if this highly credentialized man actually believes that Putin didn't poison his detractors, I'd take note. Speaking of credentials, what is your source or sources that Putin -did- poison his detractors? We're not even getting into the fact that "detractors" is a rather vague category.
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You may think anything you want, I find him to be a joke.
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I don't just think something about him, I have a massive amount of evidence to back it up. You, on the other hand...
 
Scott said:
I don't just think something about him, I have a massive amount of evidence to back it up. You, on the other hand...
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The only thing I need to know about him is he thinks Putin doesn’t poison people. It makes him a liar to me and that’s all I need to know about him. I could dig up articles that call him out on his lies about Ukraine, but your are a Putin apologist and those arguments won’t change your mind. I don’t believe Russian propaganda. I don’t trust anything Putin says.
 
Phantasmal said:
Scott said:
I don't just think something about him, I have a massive amount of evidence to back it up. You, on the other hand...
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The only thing I need to know about him is he thinks Putin doesn’t poison people. It makes him a liar to me and that’s all I need to know about him.
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You haven't shown any evidence that Putin -does- poison people. Surely you must realize that having beliefs without evidence to back them up isn't exactly the best policy?
 
Phantasmal said:
I could dig up articles that call him out on his lies about Ukraine, but your are a Putin apologist and those arguments won’t change your mind.
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How would you know? I don't think you've even -tried- to provide evidence for your claims.
 
Just finished watching the following video from Russia News, wherein Putin gives answers to questions I think are important. It can be seen here:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soIrXjG1u7E&ab_channel=RussiaNews


I think the title of the video is misleading, though I also think that what Putin actually said that I imagine inspired the title wasn't the best as well. That being said, I can understand that after over 3 years of war with Ukraine that emotions may start to colour his thoughts on the matter. Here's the part of his speech that I'm thinking about, starting at around 4:40:
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I have said many times that I consider the Russian and Ukrainian
people to be one people in reality. In this sense, all of Ukraine is ours.
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I think that immediately after that, he self corrects to some extent, by mitigating what he said:
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But we proceed from the realities that are developing now.
Of course, there are people, and there are many of them in the neighboring country, who strive to
ensure their sovereignty and independence. Well, God bless them.
Incidentally, we have never questioned their right, the right of the Ukrainian people,
to independence and sovereignty. At the same time, the grounds on
which Ukraine became independent and sovereign were set out in the Declaration of Independence
of Ukraine of 1991, where it is clearly written in black and white that Ukraine is a non-aligned,
non-nuclear, neutral state. It would be nice to return to
these fundamental values on which Ukraine gained its independence and sovereignty.
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Just read the following article published on July 4th on the War in Ukraine, thought it was quite good:
strategic-culture.su

Oh la la… Putin drops truth bomb on Macron

For Macron and all the NATO states to do that would be to admit their culpability for creating the biggest war in Europe since the…
strategic-culture.su strategic-culture.su

Quoting from the conclusion of the article:
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What Trump, Macron, and other Western leaders need to understand is that Russia wants a permanent peace based on its legitimate strategic security interests. This conflict is not a localized one between two parties. It is a proxy war between Russia and NATO, engendered by NATO. Pretending otherwise, as Macron is doing by conceitedly calling for a quick ceasefire, is a deception.

At least Trump seems to recognize that the supply of weapons to Ukraine has to stop if there is any chance of ending the conflict. This week, the Pentagon announced it was halting the flow of munitions. A big part of the reason is practical reality: the U.S. has depleted its arsenal after three years of weaponizing the Kiev regime.

The European leaders need to come to their senses too, and stop fueling the war machine that is the Kiev regime. It is a lost cause. Russia is winning the war and will eventually eradicate the regime and NATO’s threat to its national security. Europe does not have the capability or the resources. The grand deception projected by Macron and others, including EU top officials Ursula von der Leyen and Kaja Kallas, and NATO’s Mark Rutte, is destroying Europe.

Therein lies the fatal dilemma. What Putin said to Macron is the truth. If the conflict has any chance of being resolved peacefully, then the starting place is to recognize the historic causes of the conflict, not the delusional stuff that Macron is peddling.

But for Macron and all the NATO states to do that would be to admit their culpability for creating the biggest war in Europe since the Second World War. The political and legal repercussions would be explosive for Macron and the entire Western leadership. They are caught in the web of a Big Lie that they have spun.
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Just finished reading the following article from Patrick Lawrence, thought it was quite good...
consortiumnews.com

PATRICK LAWRENCE: Trump Dead-Ends Putin

For a good long time what's been happening in Ukraine is nothing more than postwar gore. If you have lost a war but cannot admit it, you are playing the old game of pretend. By Patrick Lawrence Special to Consortium News Presidents Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin have spoken by telephone nu
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X is currently ablaze with claims of massive Russian food production problems due to labor shortages and seed embargoes.....not sure how much truth there is to the claim.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Scott said:
Just finished watching this podcast from Sebastian Sas on the war in Ukraine as well as a few other asides, thought it was quite good...
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t52McFPthvE&ab_channel=SebastianSas
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Never heard of this person.....
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I hadn't either until perhaps a few months ago. I suspect some youtube algorithm brought him to my attention. I like his viewpoints though- he's Romanian, which is why Romania tends to enter into his youtube podcasts now and again. Romania, which is one of the countries bordering Ukraine to the west, is also bordered on its western side with Serbia, which has made it clear that it has strong reservations about making an enemy out of Russia. Recently, a "pro western" leader was ushered into power by essentially nullifying the will of the people by claiming that the candidate who was most likely to win, Calin Georgescu, couldn't be allowed to compete in the elctions anymore due to allegations that "a Russian influence operation had impacted the vote", as Wikipedia put it.
 
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