The War in Ukraine
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Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Yes, it is, Russia and they like to meddle.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
maybe it's dumb to put military presence right on their border.
you people are trying to destroy the nation with entangling allieances and forever wars.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
epstein visits Whitehouse under obama 17 times.
What war is not? Were Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam intelligent wars?
Scott
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Technically, that's not what Simplicius, which I assume is the author you're referring to, actually said. He did seem to say that he -suspects- that this is why Trump has given Russia a "50 day notice". I think it's best to just quote Simplicius directly so that there's no confusion as to what he said for the audience:
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Trump finally ‘wowed’ the world today with his grand announcement on punitive measures against Russia.
As usual, the announcement struck a dull and lackluster chord for most, with Russian markets jubilantly jumping by nearly 3% in response. But let’s dig in to see whether there is actually more meat on the bone of Trump’s scary threats than people give credit for.
Firstly, the timing: Axios now reports that Putin allegedly told Trump he plans to ‘intensify’ the Russian summer offensive in the next 60 days, with the goal—according to some sources—purportedly being to capture the remainder of nominal Russian territory, i.e. Donetsk, Lugansk, and Zaporozhye oblasts.
If there’s any hint of truth to such reports, then Trump’s “50-day notice” would seem to line up with Putin’s timeline, given that the conversation happened days ago, and thus Putin’s “60-day plan” would fall almost precisely on Trump’s deadline.
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Source:
Trump's Weapons Magic Show is Smoke & Mirrors Masterclass
Trump finally ‘wowed’ the world today with his grand announcement on punitive measures against Russia.
simplicius76.substack.com
Trump is actually giving aid to Ukraine even as we speak and I suspect he'll continue doing so for the time being. Or are you referring to the fact that Trump has apparently made it so that the U.S. will no longer be paying for most if any of it? I infer this from the following passage from Simplicius' article:
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Now on the weapons side, as always, is where the biggest cloud of ambiguity lies. No one seems to know precisely what weapons and from what package will be sent, but according to CNN, it all sounds like more of the same, but just ‘repackaged’ with a new price tag.
Reports indicate the same air-to-air missiles, howitzer and GMLRS rounds will be sent as before, but simply that now NATO countries will foot the bill. Prior to that, under Biden’s PDA, the US was sending weapons directly to Ukraine from its own stockpiles, and then replenishing those stockpiles with new orders to the MIC, from taxpayer funds. Now, it will come from European taxpayer funds—a win for the US, we must admit.
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I know there are other posters here who are tired of the U.S. financing Ukraine's war with Russia, and on this, I agree completely. Trump made it clear even before he was elected that he didn't think highly of the Biden Administration's exorbitant expenditures to fund the Ukraine war and on this he hasn't changed tack.
Scott
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Nope, they were all dumb too.
Scott
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Agreed.
Scott
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Russia's meddling is positively tame compared to U.S. meddling. American Professor and Statesman Jeffrey Sachs said it quite well to European Parliament recently:
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So, there were no territorial demands at all before the 2014 coup [in Ukraine]. Yet the United States decided that Yanukovych must be overthrown because he favored neutrality and opposed NATO enlargement. It’s called a regime change operation.
There have been around one hundred regime-change operations by the U.S. since 1947, many in your countries [speaking to the MEPs] and many all over the world.
(Political scientist Lindsey O’Rourke documented 64 U.S. covert regime-change operations between 1947 and 1989, and concluded that “Regime change operations, especially those conducted covertly, have oft en led to prolonged instability, civil wars, and humanitarian crises in the affected regions.” See O’Rourke’s 2018 book, Covert Regime Change: America’s Secret Cold War. After 1989, there is ample evidence of the C.I.A. involved in Syria, Libya, Ukraine, Venezuela, and many other countries.)
That’s what the C.I.A. does for a living. Please know it. It’s a very unusual kind of foreign policy. In the American government, if you don’t like the other side, you don’t negotiate with them, you try to overthrow them, preferably, covertly. If it doesn’t work covertly, you do it overtly. You always say it’s not our fault. They’re the aggressor. They’re the other side.
They’re “Hitler.” That comes up every two or three years. Whether it’s Saddam Hussein, whether it’s [deposed Syrian President Bashar] al-Assad, whether it’s Putin, that’s very convenient. That’s the only foreign policy explanation the American people are ever given. Well, we’re facing Munich 1938. We can’t talk to the other side. They’re evil and implacable foes. That’s the only model of foreign policy we ever hear from our government and mass media. The mass media repeats it entirely because it’s completely suborned by the U.S. government.
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Source:
Jeffrey Sachs: The Geopolitics of Peace
The author explains manipulative U.S. post-war foreign policy to European MPs, explodes myths about Ukraine and urges an independent European foreign policy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjcMoDFU1xg&ab_channel=MichaelvonderSchulenburg This is an edited transcript of Professor Jeffrey Sachs’
consortiumnews.com