France & Germany still DO NOT PAY their NATO obligations - a middle finger to Ukraine

Nomad said:
First time I've ever seen anyone quote Quora as a supposedly factual source.... :palm:

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Not only that. Bigdog responded to the Quora blurb: "Thanks, I wasn't aware of all that."

These idiots (serendipity and Bigdog) are reading subway graffiti and going, "Ahh, yes, I see. That's captivating and informative."
 
serendipity said:
Here is another Quora link for you to ignore.

Was British prime minister Neville Chamberlain’s decision to invest heavily in fighter squadrons and development of radar the main reason Britain was the victor in the Battle of Britain? Would Britain have fallen if not done in time?

Yes, and Chamberlain in particular should be credited with three specific calls that he made and persuaded his cabinet to agree to:


  • Invest in fighter defence over strategic bombers, against the RAF’s own wishes. Chamberlain didn’t subscribe to the Trenchard philosophy of strategic bombing (which in turn came from Douhet), and advocated for the RAF to have a defensive strategy. He also believed fighters were cheaper than bombers, which was no small part of his motivation! Pressure from Chamberlain in particular was one of the reasons for the formation of RAF Fighter Command in 1936.
  • Invest in single-seat fighters, particularly the Spitfire, over other types, like turret fighters (a design that one W.S. Churchill was a big advocate of). Chamberlain even spoke about the need for single seat fighters in the commons in May 1938, and had advocated their prioritisation even earlier when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer. No doubt he was getting technical advice from somewhere, but he made the right call.
  • Munich. For all the negative things that can be said about the Munich Agreement, it gave Britain, and the RAF in particular, time to grow its air defences. At the time of Munich, Fighter Command had just 25 squadrons, but by the eve of the Battle of Britain, they had 58, and even more importantly, because of Chamberlain’s earlier pushes for the creation of shadow factories, the British were out-producing the German aircraft industries (which is even more impressive when you realise a Spitfire took three times as many man-hours to make as a Bf 109…)
Chamberlain himself wrote to his sister in July 1940 and said, “If I am personally responsible for deficiencies in tanks and guns, I must equally be responsible for the effeciency of the RAF”, and he wasn’t far wrong.

https://www.quora.com/Was-British-p...&share=629743d4&srid=ptTZY&target_type=answer
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Quora is as reliable as JPP is. You may as well post a picture of turds floating in a toilet and tell us what you think it means.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The current plan is to steal something like $300 billion from Russia and use it to finish the destruction of Ukraine. There is supposed to be an announcement tomorrow.

This will not end well for the West.
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Who is going to make that announcement and at what time?
 
Diesel said:
Not only that. Bigdog responded to the Quora blurb: "Thanks, I wasn't aware of all that."

These idiots (serendipity and Bigdog) are reading subway graffiti and going, "Ahh, yes, I see. That's captivating and informative."
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Fucking idiot, I also posted an article from the New Statesman, shit for brains. I am minded to just put you on ignore, it's clear you have absolutely no idea. I could post many more but what's the point, it would just be another case of pearls before swine.

[h=1]Did Neville Chamberlain create the conditions for the RAF to win the Battle of Britain?[/h]
By Leo McKinstry

https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...lain-create-conditions-raf-win-battle-britain
 
Diesel said:
Subsidized how? By defense spending and NATO funding?

Whether the EU can defend itself alone against Russia is up for debate. You proclaiming it does not make it true. Ukraine only exists today because of the West's support. That is undeniable.


Then you completely broke from reality again and went on some delusional tangent about human migration, which is an issue for your therapist and pharmacist, not me.
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Subsidize them by providing them the vast majority of their military defense.

No debate. The Ukraine invasion exposed the weakness of the Russian military. The idea that Russian tanks can just roll across Europe has been proven wrong.

Unvetted foreigners are being dumped by white libs into minority communities. Don't doubt me.
 
serendipity said:
Fucking idiot, I also posted an article from the New Statesman, shit for brains. I am minded to just put you on ignore, it's clear you have absolutely no idea. I could post many more but what's the point, it would just be another case of pearls before swine.

[h=1]Did Neville Chamberlain create the conditions for the RAF to win the Battle of Britain?[/h]
By Leo McKinstry

https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...lain-create-conditions-raf-win-battle-britain
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What does that have to do with the two Quora posts you linked, "fucking idiot"?
 
Bigdog said:
Subsidize them by providing them the vast majority of their military defense.

No debate. The Ukraine invasion exposed the weakness of the Russian military. The idea that Russian tanks can just roll across Europe has been proven wrong.

Unvetted foreigners are being dumped by white libs into minority communities. Don't doubt me.
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The only reason Russian tanks didn't roll across Europe is because Europe and the US supported Ukraine.

I don't "doubt" you. Literally everything you say is a lie. You are brain washed and deceitful. I acknowledge that your masters trained you to squawk something about immigration in every post, but I'm not going to bite. I'm much smarter than you are, so you may as well save your weak bait for someone else.
 
Diesel said:
The only reason Russian tanks didn't roll across Europe is because Europe and the US supported Ukraine.

I don't "doubt" you. Literally everything you say is a lie. You are brain washed and deceitful. I acknowledge that your masters trained you to squawk something about immigration in every post, but I'm not going to bite. I'm much smarter than you are, so you may as well save your weak bait for someone else.
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Wrong. Europe had too many large arms for Russia to even try.

In the early months when Ukraine needed the most help, Biden only provided minimal effort in the form of grenade launchers and small arms. He DENIED them battle tanks, war planes, and long range missiles that they really needed.

When a busload of migrants showed up at Martha's Vineyard, all hell broke loose. The white libs had a hissy fit and threw them out immediately. :rofl2:
 
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Bigdog said:
Wrong. Europe had too many large arms for Russia to even try.

In the early months when Ukraine needed the most help, Biden only provided minimal effort in the form of grenade launchers and small arms. He DENIED them battle tanks, war planes, and long range missiles that they really needed.

When a busload of migrants showed up at Martha's Vineyard, all hell broke loose. The white libs had a hissy fit and threw them out immediately. :rofl2:
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The large arms weren't in Ukraine.
 
Bigdog said:
That's what I said.

Biden refused to provide them early on.

BTW, it was your boy Biden that linked Ukraine with U.S. border security, not me.
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Why doesn't Trump, et al. want to arm Ukraine?

Does it have something to do with this?

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Bigdog said:
That's what I said.

Biden refused to provide them early on.

BTW, it was your boy Biden that linked Ukraine with U.S. border security, not me.
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And now the Republicans are denying any aid at all. Your endless obsession with shitting on libs is mindless and tiresome.
 
Diesel said:
And now the Republicans are denying any aid at all. Your endless obsession with shitting on libs is mindless and tiresome.
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You never have anything bad to say about the EU and the NATO members who refuse to even meet the measly 2% pledge for the last 17 years. Trump prevented the new invasion front, Biden invited it.

The EU is no longer the devastated Europe it was after WW2. They have so much money and infrastructure that they are now massive welfare States subsidized by American taxpayers.

The EU can defend itself against Russia. The Ukrainian fighters and Russia's military failures have proved that.

It is time to wean these America hating foreigners from the U.S. teat.

When will Biden prioritize Securing our U.S. borders by E.O. like Trump did?
 
Bigdog said:
You never have anything bad to say about the EU and the NATO members who refuse to even meet the measly 2% pledge for the last 17 years. Trump prevented the new invasion front, Biden invited it.

The EU is no longer the devastated Europe it was after WW2. They have so much money and infrastructure that they are now massive welfare States subsidized by American taxpayers.

The EU can defend itself against Russia. The Ukrainian fighters and Russia's military failures have proved that.

It is time to wean these America hating foreigners from the U.S. teat.

When will Biden prioritize Securing our U.S. borders by E.O. like Trump did?
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Why do you want to hand Putin Europe? Do you have the West so much you'd rather see Putin, the Ayatollah and Kim take it all?
 
Bigdog said:
Should we honor a treaty that Europe breaks? ... should we deny our own citizens, while Europe spends its money on State welfare instead of defense?


"Germany recorded a trade surplus of 22.21 EUR Billion in December of 2023. Balance of Trade in Germany averaged 6.96 EUR Billion from 1962 until 2023, reaching an all time high of 23.25 EUR Billion in April of 2016"

https://tradingeconomics.com/german...corded a trade surplus,Billion in May of 1991.
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Like any treaty or contract, there are obligations on both sides. If they aren't met on one side, the treaty is effectively void. America has no obligation to defend these NATO nations.
 
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