Only in Alabama!

good point

Seven female pharaohs in three thousand years of ancient imperial Egyptian history is better than the record of ancient China or India, but it is still pretty lopsided towards the male gender.

Agreed. To what do you attribute the difference? Culture or genetic? Nature or nurture?

IMO, a clue is found in the most natural human environment; at the tribal level. Above that, things get distorted. A city-state requires a military and a military is primarily a male domain.
 
Every Conservative will always be the biggest, dumbest fucking piece of shit until the next one comes along.

How is your blind hatred of Conservatives different from the blind hatred of Terry, Libhater, Legion or others against Liberals? Other than polarity, of course.
 
A sad-but-true fact that helps explain why the United States of America is failing to lead the rest of the world in science.

There was a time when this would have alarmed Republicans. Now they're "meh" about it. After all, we must focus our energies on banning books, silencing teachers, and making sure that Intelligent Design is taught alongside biology in our public schools. :rolleyes:
 
Yes. The main problem is twofold: 1) getting them to vote, which they do compared to the 20somethings and 2) negating the fearmongering through education...since, as TOP proves, many are poorly educated.

Sadly as citizens we tend to be pretty lackadaisical about voting unless our candidate is inspiring, or the other candidate is seen as a clear and present danger. Reichwing media has desperately been trying to paint Biden as dangerous; just look at all the caterwauling from the Reichtards on this forum about that. But independents and of course (D)s don't agree; a majority of them see #TRE45ON as a danger.

As for the OP, it's funny to watch the (R)s tripping over each other to publicly denounce the Alabama court ruling despite their otherwise "pro-life" (hahaha) stance.
 
Sadly as citizens we tend to be pretty lackadaisical about voting unless our candidate is inspiring, or the other candidate is seen as a clear and present danger. Reichwing media has desperately been trying to paint Biden as dangerous; just look at all the caterwauling from the Reichtards on this forum about that. But independents and of course (D)s don't agree; a majority of them see #TRE45ON as a danger.

As for the OP, it's funny to watch the (R)s tripping over each other to publicly denounce the Alabama court ruling despite their otherwise "pro-life" (hahaha) stance.
Agreed. They've painted themselves into a corner. Watching them try to blame the "Libruls" for this is funny to watch.
 
There was a time when this would have alarmed Republicans. Now they're "meh" about it. After all, we must focus our energies on banning books, silencing teachers, and making sure that Intelligent Design is taught alongside biology in our public schools. :rolleyes:

Most Republicans have become Evangelista supporters with their head priest Donald J. Trump. Sad.

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human life in the womb have not committed murder, People that receive the death penalty have, so you are making a false equivalency
The brown children dying on the border have not committed murder either. Same goes for any kids caught in the crossfire between the forces of good and the forces of evil in the ME.

The hypocrisy of the Alt-Right is their staunch belief in White Supremacy while claiming to be Christians.
 
Agreed. To what do you attribute the difference? Culture or genetic? Nature or nurture?

IMO, a clue is found in the most natural human environment; at the tribal level. Above that, things get distorted. A city-state requires a military and a military is primarily a male domain.

I don't know enough about the history of gender issues to be able to say.

I like your theory about the military. Egypt is well protected by deserts and oceans, it was very difficult to invade, and therefore tended to not be as militarized as other ancient civilizations.
 
Most Republicans have become Evangelista supporters with their head priest Donald J. Trump. Sad.

The turning away from both the Republican Party *and* the Xtian church by young people is an interesting trend, don't you think? It does not bode well for the GOP.

According to this report, only 26% of 18-29 yo whites are Christian. Only 31% of whites in the 30-49 yo bracket are.

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I don't know enough about the history of gender issues to be able to say.

I like your theory about the military. Egypt is well protected by deserts and oceans, it was very difficult to invade, and therefore tended to not be as militarized as other ancient civilizations.

Sorry, my point was that above a certain level of civilization, the example being a city-state, then a military is necessary to protect it (or to acquire more resources through conquest). As such, males would tend to dominate the civilization. Meanwhile, on a tribal level, the division seems more equitable even though there are different male-female roles.

Females are better verbal communicators, males are more aggressive. Females are tied to offspring which require a substantial amount of care and protection whereas males, while also essential to the protection of offspring, are more dispensable when compared to mothers. As such, women seem to function better as diplomats whereas men seem to function better as hunters and warriors.


This link (which may require a free sign-in) touches upon the subject.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...nder-equality?loggedin=true&rnd=1708867132604
Historians, anthropologists, archaeologists, and feminists have been fascinated by this question—and as a science journalist, I’ve been preoccupied with it for years. In 1973 sociologist Steven Goldberg published The Inevitability of Patriarchy, a book arguing that fundamental biological differences between men and women run so deep that in every iteration of human society, a patriarchal system would always win out. Whichever way the pie was cut, men—in his view naturally more powerful and aggressive—would end up with the bigger slice. (The best and worst countries to be a woman.)

The problem with this is, male domination isn’t universal. There are many matrilineal societies—organized through mothers rather than fathers, with name and property passed from mother to daughter—around the world. In some regions, matrilineal traditions are thought to date back thousands of years.

For decades Western scholars have invented theories to explain why these societies exist. Some claim that matriliny survives only among hunter-gatherers or simple agriculturists, not in large-scale societies. Others say it works best when men are often away at war, leaving women in charge at home. Still others argue that matriliny ends as soon as people start keeping cattle, because men want to control these resources—linking patriarchy to property and land. (Read how women are stepping up to remake Rwanda.)

Always, though, matrilineal societies are framed as unusual cases, “beset by special strains, as fragile and rare, possibly even doomed to extinction,” as Washington State University anthropologist Linda Stone puts it. In academic circles, the problem is known as the matrilineal puzzle. Patriliny, on the other hand, is seen to need no explanation. It just is....

...Sociologist Goldberg’s argument was that if a pattern of behavior is universal, it probably has a biological basis, and that given how little political power women have, they must feel themselves to be naturally subordinate. But as Phillips explains, nowhere do women defer to men without struggle. For centuries, from the United States to Iran, they’ve fought for more rights and privileges. Viewed this way, we might ask why matrilineal societies are still thought of as unusually unstable. Globally, impassioned movements for gender equality—sometimes tipping into violent protest—indicate that patriarchy is not as stable as it seems either. Perhaps the real matrilineal puzzle isn’t the existence of some female-focused societies but the bizarre preponderance of male-focused ones. (The roots of International Women’s Day are more radical than you think.)

I consider the oppression of women to be a system,” sociologist Christine Delphy says. “An institution which exists today cannot be explained by the simple fact that it existed in the past...even if this past is recent.”

If we resign ourselves to accepting our lot as part of who we are by nature, we give up on understanding how it might have come about. When we settle the case for patriarchy on something as simple as biological difference, even though the evidence points to a reality that’s far more complex and contingent, we lose the capacity to recognize just how fragile it might be. We stop asking how inequality works or the ways in which it is being reinvented. (Around the world, women are taking charge of their future.)

The most dangerous part of any form of human oppression is that it can make people believe that there are no alternatives. We see this in the old fallacies of race, caste, and class. The question for any theory of male domination is why this one form of inequality should be treated as the exception.
 
The turning away from both the Republican Party *and* the Xtian church by young people is an interesting trend, don't you think? It does not bode well for the GOP.

According to this report, only 26% of 18-29 yo whites are Christian. Only 31% of whites in the 30-49 yo bracket are.

https://i.imgur.com/JI7qeMG.jpg
Agreed with a caveat. Historically, young people tend to be more idealistic and, therefore, more liberal. Older people tend to be more realistic and, therefore, more conservative. While the religious trend is away from dogma and superstition, it's not necessarily moving away from spirituality. "Religiously unaffiliated" does not equal "atheist".*

As people age, they become more conservative. Every couple who settles down and has a family becomes more conservative compared to unmarried college-aged kids who favor Sex, Drugs and Rock'n'Roll. As such, there will always be "conservatives", just not necessarily the wackadoodles we see on JPP who support Pedo Don and the white supremacist Alt-Right. This difference, as you pointed out, becomes a problem for the Alt-Right autocrats and Theocrats.

In the end, the truth will be found somewhere in the middle between the extremes of those who hate Liberals and those who hate Conservatives.


*The "when you're dead, you're dead" atheists, not those who believe in ghosts, an afterlife or other supernatural powers but not the Abrahamic God.
 
Agreed with a caveat. Historically, young people tend to be more idealistic and, therefore, more liberal. Older people tend to be more realistic and, therefore, more conservative. While the religious trend is away from dogma and superstition, it's not necessarily moving away from spirituality. "Religiously unaffiliated" does not equal "atheist".*

As people age, they become more conservative. Every couple who settles down and has a family becomes more conservative compared to unmarried college-aged kids who favor Sex, Drugs and Rock'n'Roll. As such, there will always be "conservatives", just not necessarily the wackadoodles we see on JPP who support Pedo Don and the white supremacist Alt-Right. This difference, as you pointed out, becomes a problem for the Alt-Right autocrats and Theocrats.

In the end, the truth will be found somewhere in the middle between the extremes of those who hate Liberals and those who hate Conservatives.


*The "when you're dead, you're dead" atheists, not those who believe in ghosts, an afterlife or other supernatural powers but not the Abrahamic God.

Agree when it comes to religion vs spirituality. That being said, the Republicans are closely aligned with both evangelical Xtians and fundie Xtians, as well as many mainstream Xtian flavors. Those who identify as "spiritual, not religious" tend to be younger, much less conservative and therefore not attracted to the GOP. Also note in the graph I posted that the authors separated out the demographics by race. Non-whites also tend not to vote for (R)s even if they are Xtian.
 
Certainly it was not for non-royal women. The royal women didn't have it so great either. Being forced to marry for political reasons rather than choice?

Catherine the Great made it a point to not get married, and reputedly kept dozens of lovers through her life, usually men much younger than her!
 
Agree when it comes to religion vs spirituality. That being said, the Republicans are closely aligned with both evangelical Xtians and fundie Xtians, as well as many mainstream Xtian flavors.

Those who identify as "spiritual, not religious" tend to be younger, much less conservative and therefore not attracted to the GOP.

Also note in the graph I posted that the authors separated out the demographics by race. Non-whites also tend not to vote for (R)s even if they are Xtian.
Agreed. Their brand of Christianity is, in their minds, the only brand.

Add "and better educated". :)

A good point which is why the 2013 Republican Autopsy AKA "Growth & Opportunity Project" often comes to mind; the Republicans had a choice; support a growing religious, traditional and family-oriented demographic who happen to be Hispanic or not. They chose "not" and I realized that the Republican Party I joined in 1974 no longer existed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_&_Opportunity_Project
The Growth & Opportunity Project, commonly called the RNC autopsy, was a 2013 report created by the Republican National Committee (RNC) following incumbent Democratic President Barack Obama's victory over Republican candidate Mitt Romney in the 2012 United States presidential election. The report proposed reasons for the Republican Party lack of success in recent elections as well as recommendations for future campaigns and the direction of the party.
 
Agreed. Their brand of Christianity is, in their minds, the only brand.

Add "and better educated". :)

A good point which is why the 2013 Republican Autopsy AKA "Growth & Opportunity Project" often comes to mind; the Republicans had a choice; support a growing religious, traditional and family-oriented demographic who happen to be Hispanic or not. They chose "not" and I realized that the Republican Party I joined in 1974 no longer existed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_&_Opportunity_Project

Republicans might do better with Hispanic citizens if they would quit whipping up fear and hate against migrant asylum-seekers, most of whom are Hispanic. #TRE45ON doesn't help by characterizing them as diseased criminals.

It would appear that they are backing off on their fear-and-loathing campaign now that the DC Repukes have refused to do anything about the border. Imagine that.
 
Sorry, my point was that above a certain level of civilization, the example being a city-state, then a military is necessary to protect it (or to acquire more resources through conquest). As such, males would tend to dominate the civilization. Meanwhile, on a tribal level, the division seems more equitable even though there are different male-female roles.

Females are better verbal communicators, males are more aggressive. Females are tied to offspring which require a substantial amount of care and protection whereas males, while also essential to the protection of offspring, are more dispensable when compared to mothers. As such, women seem to function better as diplomats whereas men seem to function better as hunters and warriors.


This link (which may require a free sign-in) touches upon the subject.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...nder-equality?loggedin=true&rnd=1708867132604

Yes I understood that point, and was speculating that Egypt had female pharaohs because their natural defensive geography did not require them to be in a constant state of militarization.

On the other hand, history has examples of women who were capable of effective military command: Queen Boudicca, Joan of Arc, those two sisters in ancient Vietnam.
 
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