Reminder: Palestinians are not Hamas

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BartenderElite

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SOME may have voted Hamas into power. And a smaller some may have supported the attack on Israel..

But MOST did not do either. Trying to just pretend they're all in the same boat and somehow less deserving of rights and life is just wrong. And trying to pretend that people marching or protesting in support of Palestinians are "Hamas sympathizers" is pathetic.

Innocents on both sides - and everywhere - deserve to be protected, and deserve our support.
 
BartenderElite said:
SOME may have voted Hamas into power. And a smaller some may have supported the attack on Israel..

But MOST did not do either. Trying to just pretend they're all in the same boat and somehow less deserving of rights and life is just wrong. And trying to pretend that people marching or protesting in support of Palestinians are "Hamas sympathizers" is pathetic.

Innocents on both sides - and everywhere - deserve to be protected, and deserve our support.
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Perhaps you will suit up and head over to Gaza.
 
BartenderElite said:
SOME may have voted Hamas into power. And a smaller some may have supported the attack on Israel..

But MOST did not do either. Trying to just pretend they're all in the same boat and somehow less deserving of rights and life is just wrong. And trying to pretend that people marching or protesting in support of Palestinians are "Hamas sympathizers" is pathetic.

Innocents on both sides - and everywhere - deserve to be protected, and deserve our support.
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Yes, both sides.
The slaughtered Israeli children and other innocent civilians were not combatants either.
It doesn't matter.
You're trying to create a "right and wrong" scenario in what's for them an "us and them" conflict.

Hatred is forever.

Neither side wins
without a successful war of genocide
so just pick a side.

This is the real world, not Sunday School.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Yes, both sides.
The slaughtered Israeli children and other innocent civilians were not combatants either.
It doesn't matter.
You're trying to create a "right and wrong" scenario in what's for them an "us and them" conflict.

Hatred is forever.

Neither side wins
without a successful war of genocide
so just pick a side.

This is the real world, not Sunday School.
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You believe in genocide.
 
BidenPresident said:
You believe in genocide.
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I believe in it.
I didn't invent it.

Euro-settlers did a pretty good job on the indigenous Americans,
the NAZI Holocaust nearly exterminated the European Jews,
and it goes on.

That's what we are as a species.
Maybe evolution will come up with something better than us reasonably soon.
We, however, are not going to be the ones to change it.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I believe in it.
I didn't invent it.

Euro-settlers did a pretty good job on the indigenous Americans,
the NAZI Holocaust nearly exterminated the European Jews,
and it goes on.

That's what we are as a species.
Maybe evolution will come up with something better than us reasonably soon.
We, however, are not going to be the ones to change it.
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You are sick.
 
BartenderElite said:
SOME may have voted Hamas into power. And a smaller some may have supported the attack on Israel..

But MOST did not do either. Trying to just pretend they're all in the same boat and somehow less deserving of rights and life is just wrong. And trying to pretend that people marching or protesting in support of Palestinians are "Hamas sympathizers" is pathetic.

Innocents on both sides - and everywhere - deserve to be protected, and deserve our support.
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There are plenty of people (in America) marching in support of Hamas’ actions however. They support Hamas’ actions because in their eyes Israel has oppressed the Palestinians for 70 years and this was a justified response.

So it’s fine to say not everyone who is out marching supports that position but it is not accurate to claim no one marching supports Hamas’ actions.
 
cawacko said:
There are plenty of people (in America) marching in support of Hamas’ actions however. They support Hamas’ actions because in their eyes Israel has oppressed the Palestinians for 70 years and this was a justified response.

So it’s fine to say not everyone who is out marching supports that position but it is not accurate to claim no one marching supports Hamas’ actions.
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Agreed 100%. Which is why I didn't claim that.
 
All Germans weren't Nazis in WW 2...
All Japanese weren't Imperial soldiers...
All Russians weren't Communists....

For that matter, all Southerners didn't support the Confederacy...

Yet, in every case where civilians got in the way of military victory they became accidental targets. What's suddenly different with Israel invading Gaza to defeat a quasi-military opponent? Israel warned Palestinian civilians to flee what was to become the battlefield. My bet is Hamas hindered that as much as Egypt in getting out. Hamas would see having civilians present on the battlefield as a propaganda plus for them.
Hand wringing, know-nothing, Leftists in the West will whine and howl about how Israel is killing civilians and Hamas knows it. So, I'd think they'd try and ensure conditions are such that that happens.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
All Germans weren't Nazis in WW 2...
All Japanese weren't Imperial soldiers...
All Russians weren't Communists....

For that matter, all Southerners didn't support the Confederacy...

Yet, in every case where civilians got in the way of military victory they became accidental targets. What's suddenly different with Israel invading Gaza to defeat a quasi-military opponent? Israel warned Palestinian civilians to flee what was to become the battlefield. My bet is Hamas hindered that as much as Egypt in getting out. Hamas would see having civilians present on the battlefield as a propaganda plus for them.
Hand wringing, know-nothing, Leftists in the West will whine and howl about how Israel is killing civilians and Hamas knows it. So, I'd think they'd try and ensure conditions are such that that happens.
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Is that what we call supporting innocent civilians these days?

"Whining?"
 
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