Reminder: Palestinians are not Hamas

T. A. Gardner said:
How "innocent" are they? How many voted for Hamas? How many are supporters of Hamas? How many sell goods and services to Hamas?
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The last election was 17 years ago. Half the population wasn’t even born yet. A good number that were alive were not able to vote. So, what does that leave? Hamas got about 45% of the vote in 2006. NO SINGLE DISTRICT IN GAZA gave Hamas a majority vote. That leaves MAYBE 10% of the existing population that supported Hamas in 2006. Maybe even less.
 
BartenderElite said:
I support innocent lives on both sides. You don't.

Not really disputable.
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If you aren't supporting the decimation of Hamas you are supporting more Jewish deaths including women and children . No one wants Palestinians civilians to die . Innocents die in every war. Hamas started this war. I suspect their population will suffer more. Israelis would have been glad to not have to fight this war. More young israeli soldiers are about to die. I see no sufficient reason to let Hamas be able to do this again in the future. At this point any Palestinian death is on Hamas not Israel. At this point we can only hope most save themselves.
 
domer76 said:
The last election was 17 years ago. Half the population wasn’t even born yet. A good number that were alive were not able to vote. So, what does that leave? Hamas got about 45% of the vote in 2006. That leaves MAYBE 10% of the existing population that supported Hamas in 2006. Maybe even less.
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Their parents were around then. My parents were responsible for me till I was 18.
 
ExpressLane said:
So now according to you I have to object to every statement I don't agree with??? Are you being serious? Really??

:facepalm:
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Totally reasonable, facepalm. You completely skipped over those contentions on this thread, and on your thread - but of course challenge me to 'prove' that most did NOT support Hamas.
 
BartenderElite said:
Totally reasonable, facepalm. You completely skipped over those contentions on this thread, and on your thread - but of course challenge me to 'prove' that most did NOT support Hamas.
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I'm pretty sure no one took a poll on who cheered . I will say this based on the fact that the Palestinians in public schools teach their kids to hate and murder Jews (there is video documentation) I was first made aware of this when I saw videos of it during The Holy Land Foundation trial in the 90s I saw a undercover of an elementary school play where kids used rubber knives and fake suicide vests to "murder" Jews. The parents were very happy and clapped and cheered. My wife was the Federal Court Reporter on that case. So I would not be surprised at all to learn most of the people did cheer for the October massacre.
 
BartenderElite said:
I support innocent lives on both sides. You don't.

Not really disputable.
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I told you my feelings. Israel is between a rock and a hard spot. If they don't decimate Hamas additional innocent Jews will die in the future . It is clear Hamas can't remain in charge the Jews have tried that since 2007 and Hamas is digging water pipe up and shooting at and killing Jews :palm: So this isn't something you can be on both sides on. You simply can't have it both ways and you are naive if you think you can. Personally I hope any innocent Palestinian will get out of the way. I fear Hamas will not allow that. Israel captured the Gaza strip from Egypt at the cost of Israeli lives and then they GIVE it to the Palestinians as a Palestinian state for them to run on their own and they massacre innocent Israelis. There is no wonder that NO ARAB country will take them in. Not even Egypt.. :palm:
 
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BartenderElite said:
SOME may have voted Hamas into power. And a smaller some may have supported the attack on Israel..

But MOST did not do either. Trying to just pretend they're all in the same boat and somehow less deserving of rights and life is just wrong. And trying to pretend that people marching or protesting in support of Palestinians are "Hamas sympathizers" is pathetic.

Innocents on both sides - and everywhere - deserve to be protected, and deserve our support.
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No ...MOST VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY FOR HAMAS, according to Terror-o-crats and the UN.
 
ExpressLane said:
I'm pretty sure no one took a poll on who cheered . I will say this based on the fact that the Palestinians in public schools teach their kids to hate and murder Jews (there is video documentation) I was first made aware of this when I saw videos of it during The Holy Land Foundation trial in the 90s I saw a undercover of an elementary school play where kids used rubber knives and fake suicide vests to "murder" Jews. The parents were very happy and clapped and cheered. My wife was the Federal Court Reporter on that case. So I would not be surprised at all to learn most of the people did cheer for the October massacre.
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They are not stupid. They knew what Israel was going to do to them. They were not involved in the Hamas attack. I suppose many felt the generational suppression and mistreatment of Palestinians deserved some punishment for Israelis. The people being killed were not involved. Israel says they hit 450 targets yesterday. It is no fun just minding your own business and trying to get by, makes you a target.
 
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