Biden want's to force people to buy electric water heaters now

[Into the Night]

All those people living without hot water because they can't afford a new water heater....




No requirement to replace water heaters immediately which you also said. You seem to not know what you are talking about.

Still trying to justify fascism, eh?

 

[Into the Night]

YOu have to stick to one argument and one only.

No, he doesn't. He can present any number of arguments he wants to. Who are YOU to order him around?? Omniscience fallacy.

Is it OK or not for government to regulate in these areas as they ALWAYS have?

No. They do not have the authority.

You cannot only have a view that it is OK if it proves LATER to have had benefit as that demands politicians know the future.

He didn't make that argument. Word stuffing.

It is called the Fallacy of Results Based Thinking.

Fallacy fallacy. Word stuffing is itself a fallacy.

That an action will deemed proper to take, or not, when i see the result.

Word stuffing. He never made any such argument.

Governments are not perfect

No one said they were. Word stuffing.

but if you take the position they can only regulate Lead, Arsenic, Pollutants,

They federal government has no authority to ban or regulate lead or arsenic. Define 'pollution'. Illiteracy: normal nouns are not capitalized.

if in the FUTURE it proves it had a discernable effect on health, then they can never begin.

Irrelevance fallacy and word stuffing.

They can never do any of it.

The federal government has no authority to regulate or ban lead or arsenic. No State government has this in their constitution either.

This seems to track with your prior line of thinking that no new technology should be pursued if the demand and benefits and operation of it are not already proven. What you mocked as wish casting.

He is not talking about technology as wish casting. Word stuffing.

You seem to operate entirely from within the Results based Thinking fallacy.

Fallacy fallacy.

That you are going to judge EVERYTHING from hindsight and if something does not work,

He is not. Word stuffing.

then you will say it was then wrong to have done in the first place.

It is wrong to have done it in the first place.

And that type of thinking is wrong and flawed at a very fundamental level.

Word stuffing.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Still trying to justify fascism, eh?

Fascism according to Into the Night:

People are restricted to buying items that are good for them!!

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

No, he doesn't. He can present any number of arguments he wants to. Who are YOU to order him around?? Omniscience fallacy.

No. They do not have the authority.

He didn't make that argument. Word stuffing.

Fallacy fallacy. Word stuffing is itself a fallacy.

Word stuffing. He never made any such argument.

No one said they were. Word stuffing.

They federal government has no authority to ban or regulate lead or arsenic. Define 'pollution'. Illiteracy: normal nouns are not capitalized.

Irrelevance fallacy and word stuffing.

The federal government has no authority to regulate or ban lead or arsenic. No State government has this in their constitution either.

He is not talking about technology as wish casting. Word stuffing.

Fallacy fallacy.

He is not. Word stuffing.

It is wrong to have done it in the first place.

Word stuffing.

Fallacy fallacy

The fallacy fallacy when Into the Night claims another poster is using fallacies rather than discussing the topic. He does this to try to appear smarter than he really is.


This post by his is particularly humorous based on a previous post by him since it would mean he has just committed the redefinition fallacy by trying to claim a fallacy fallacy on another poster.

Redefinition fallacy. Mockery. Pivot fallacy.

 

[QP!]

Fascism according to Into the Night:

People are restricted to buying items that are good for them!!

How dare the government tell companies that lead cannot be in children toys or try to regulate in this area!!

This fascism needs to stop. Companies should be free to have lead in them and to not disclose it.

You fascist supporting cucks need to stop saying this is wrong.

/Into the Night/Terry and other Derps

 

[evince]

The standard price to switch over is 1,500 dollars for a new heater, not counting installation.

Biden is telling us it will save us money in the long run meaning he want's the government to dictate to us what we will do.

He also says it will cut down on greenhouse gases even though it's only us doing it, he is not pressuring other nations to do it.

This idiot needs to be voted out of office.

Biden admin cracks down on another popular home appliance



I don't need Biden telling me what's best for me.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-cracks-down-another-popular-home-appliance

Information is not force you dirty lump of rat shit

 

[Nordberg]

There is evidence that gas appliances are connected to breathing problems in children, like asthma, and COPD in adults. https://truthinscience.org/should-g...9wxOKchZv-wWE0PBdoPalEwjQ2NNljDhoCsecQAvD_BwE i Biden is being protective.

 

[Into the Night]

Fascism according to Into the Night:

People are restricted to buying items that are good for them!!

That is fascism. YOU don't get to determine 'what is good for them'.

 

[Into the Night]

Fallacy fallacy

The fallacy fallacy when Into the Night claims another poster is using fallacies rather than discussing the topic. He does this to try to appear smarter than he really is.


This post by his is particularly humorous based on a previous post by him since it would mean he has just committed the redefinition fallacy by trying to claim a fallacy fallacy on another poster.

Redefinition fallacy. Mockery. Discard of logic.

 

[Into the Night]

How dare the government tell companies that lead cannot be in children toys or try to regulate in this area!!

The federal government has no authority in this area.

This fascism needs to stop. Companies should be free to have lead in them and to not disclose it.

Like anything, they expose themselves to civil action that way.

You fascist supporting cucks need to stop saying this is wrong.

Fascism is wrong. It never works.

 

[Into the Night]

Information is not force you dirty lump of rat shit

Not information, Convinced. It's a proposed law. An unconstitutional one.

 

[Into the Night]

There is evidence that gas appliances are connected to breathing problems in children, like asthma, and COPD in adults. https://truthinscience.org/should-g...9wxOKchZv-wWE0PBdoPalEwjQ2NNljDhoCsecQAvD_BwE i Biden is being protective.

NONE. You are making shit up again.

 

[Damocles]

Can you provide an itemized list for why the wiring will cost $1000?

https://pdf.lowes.com/productdocume...1*1hjxare*_gcl_au*ODgzNjIwNDg5LjE2ODkyNTc3ODM.
A 5500w 240v electric water heater requires 30 amps and 10 gauge wire according to the user manual

1 - 30A GFCI Circuit Breaker - $150 ($285 for one at Graybar without commercial discount)
60' of 3/4" conduit - $100 (1/2" conduit will work according to code)
misc conduit connectors - $50
200' of 10gauge wire - $200 (Home Depot sells it for $.31 per ft)
Assorted wire connectors - $20
Grand total for all the electrical materials needed - $520


I don't get to $1000 and I have all my wire, conduit and the breaker.


I can get 250' of MC 10/3 from Grainger for $350 or 125' of MC 10/3 from Home Depot for $259.

It will cost at least that for most because they simply do not have the expertise to install any of that, let alone up to code.

 

[Lionfish]

Fascism according to Into the Night:

People are restricted to buying items that are good for them!!

No, people are able to buy what they want and afford.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The standard price to switch over is 1,500 dollars for a new heater, not counting installation.

Biden is telling us it will save us money in the long run meaning he want's the government to dictate to us what we will do.

He also says it will cut down on greenhouse gases even though it's only us doing it, he is not pressuring other nations to do it.

This idiot needs to be voted out of office.

Biden admin cracks down on another popular home appliance



I don't need Biden telling me what's best for me.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-cracks-down-another-popular-home-appliance

Electric water heaters are VASTLY more expensive than natural gas. Biden wants the federal government to have absolute control over all energy so it can be used as a weapon against enemies of the party.

 

[Uncensored2008]

No, people are able to buy what they want and afford.

California has already outlawed single family homes.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

You understand that they are news reporting agency, they do very little investigative journalism, they simply report things from other sources, left sources as much as right sources.

This FoxNews report was on yesterday:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1684665391447224320

President Biden takes a glorious victory lap after Fox News of all places is forced to admit that the U.S. economy is thriving under his administration.

You just know that Donald Trump is absolutely SEETHING right now...

It all started with Fox Business Network host Cheryl Casone informing her conservative viewers that GDP growth in Q2 was 2.4%, much higher than the predicted 1.8%.

"Talk about a strong economy!" said Casone. "There goes that recession talk."

"We were thinking we were going to have a slowdown, it’s the opposite!" she said. "Economy is still strong."

Soon after, White House deputy communications director Herbie Ziskend posted the clip on Twitter.
The administration must be downright giddy that Republicans are finally learning the truth about Bidenomics.

 

[Flash]

If you don't mind sorta warm showers, I guess.

You must have gotten a defective unit. Mine is often hotter than I want.

 

[Flash]

Too bad you never learned English. It is a water heater (a lousy one).

Of course it is a water heater, but the remark was that it is not a water tank. You need to returns yours for a functioning unit.

 

[Flash]

So? Obviously you don't care how hot your water is.

The temperature is adjustable.