Status of your father!

I have always been a proponent for the Merit System, in terms of employment or school acceptance.

I am here today, to just say, that I do believe that if left to their vices, some schools will use Race as a factor of acceptance!

But, I also believe that not all will, and that all Universities want to be able to show off their accomplishments and results of their abilities to produce professionals in their course of studies provided.

Perhaps Barrack Obama and Michelle Obama were accepted at Princeton and Harvard Universities by way of Affirmative actions, these Universities are now most proud of how the Obama's are a perfect picture measure of their successes and they may now show them off as great examples of their race when given opportunities.

The world has a lot of examples of Black Successful Graduates and excellent students of Universities now to go with. Black people have long since proven they are some of the most educated in their fields of study, and hold some of the some of most prestigious of all professionals in their career fields.

So, now let this be a competition and selling point now for Universities to accept even more Black students, and students of all creeds and colors, and without feeling like they are forced to accept people based on creeds or colors.

Let us decide as a public who is being fair and not fair in their admittance programs.

Let's blacklist the Racist Universities, and promote the Universities that have risen above racism as a determining factor upon acceptance and admittance to their Universities.

This can all be measured by minority enrollment counts, grade and graduation rate studies!

In my thought, you are either proving you are a racist based entity, or you are an Equal Opportunity based entity, regardless as to whether you are a place of employment, University, Person, or Political Party, or Member of a Political party- OR MEMBER OF THE SUPREME COURT!

There is such a thing as an audit trail!

Let's just see for ourselves now that Affirmative action has gone away!

It won't take more than a couple of years to determine that by watching how equal opportunity trends either upward or downward.
 
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Supreme court says racy cannot be a factor for admissions, but status of your father can.

If your parents can donate a huge chunk of money or if granddaddy graduated that can be the only factor.

Well first u have to have a father to write the check

That alone will knock off most blacks...who don't know who their father is or he is in prison or killed by another black man or he has fathered 16 kids by 5 different woman and is no where to be found
 
Well first u have to have a father to write the check

That alone will knock off most blacks...who don't know who their father is or he is in prison or he has fathered 16 kids by 5 different woman and is no where to be found

Are you like TDAK, where one of your daughters started banging a black dude and sent you over the edge?
 
Is eating at Nobu the way to unlocking your potential.

Pretty much in the same way going to Yale or Harvard is. Eating at Nobu is a way to be part of the Hollywood Elite, to rub elbows with Tom Cruz or Brad Pitt. Just as the Gravy League schools are a signal that one is of the elite.

Consider this, University of Phoenix licenses their MBA curriculum from Harvard. When the Wuhan Designer Virus® forced Harvard to online only, there was no difference at all in the education provided by either institution. Same textbooks, same workshops, same exams. So what did spending a million dollars for the Harvard program buy, rather than $100K at UOP? Connections - status - a golden ticket into the oligarchy. Education wise, there is no difference, but from the prestige of the elite, Harvard is a must.

Nobu is the identical in this regard. How good can sushi really be? Will a $2,000 dinner REALLY be that much better than a $300 dinner? It's all about being in the "in" crowd.
 
It’s not your fault, it’s your bias claiming Democrats aren’t addressing the problem when they are.
It's a low priority. Talk is cheap. Biden tried to forgive all college debt and push "free college". Not a peep about K-12.

Feel free to point fingers at the Republicans because they don't give a shit either. They just want all of their school taxes applied to "vouchers" so their kids can go to private schools...away for all the riff-raff. LOL
 
It's a low priority. Talk is cheap. Biden tried to forgive all college debt and push "free college". Not a peep about K-12.

Feel free to point fingers at the Republicans because they don't give a shit either. They just want all of their school taxes applied to "vouchers" so their kids can go to private schools...away for all the riff-raff. LOL
It’s not low priority, it is one of the priorities, it’s just right now there are some thermhot button” issues being discussed in the news. They are working on the issue all the time, because there are representatives whose districts are the ones suffering.
 
It’s not low priority, it is one of the priorities, it’s just right now there are some thermhot button” issues being discussed in the news. They are working on the issue all the time, because there are representatives whose districts are the ones suffering.
Democrats are free to bleat whatever they like, but results count. The results are they pushed and pushed college debt and free college, then lost. Sure K-12 may be a "priority" on DNC list of things-to-do, but it's clearly so low on the list that I've never seen them pushing it like other priorities. In fact, I've never seen them push it at all. Just lip-service.
 
Their choice, but I think American taxpayers will benefit most from better educated HS students instead of only focusing upon college students....which is the current DNC mantra.

I think America will benefit better by treating trade schools as the equal of a community college AS degree, and fully funding both. Those with aspirations of higher education can work to earn the next two years towards their BS/BA, or apply for loans and grants and scholarships, or have their parents pay for it.
 
Why make it complicated?

Why not offer quality public education to everybody
and let the private schools do whatever the hell they want to do?

Are you talking about that ghastly socialist program that involves we taxpayers funding higher education? If so, come sit closer to me and let's figure out how to implement this diabolical scheme.
 
They already have 13 years for free.

Which was great when you graduated and could get a good job via blue-collar type training to be a machinist/mechanic/assembly line worker, for free. Try doing that now. Try even getting a job much over minimum wage now with just a h.s. diploma.

That's the problem with old conservatives. Most of them are as old as you and I, RB, and think that anyone in America can get a good-paying job w/o higher education, like in our day... if you knew someone.
 
I think America will benefit better by treating trade schools as the equal of a community college AS degree, and fully funding both.

Those with aspirations of higher education can work to earn the next two years towards their BS/BA, or apply for loans and grants and scholarships, or have their parents pay for it.
They are equally respectable career paths. Largely a matter of choice. My brother made three times what I did, but I loved my job and he couldn't wait to retire. College funding becomes problematic due to taxpayer cost and the fact the Republicans prefer most American voters remain poorly educated.

The welding classes I took could have been taken for college credit, albeit at triple the cost, or for $200 per 5-6 week class for a printed certificate. I opted for the $200 classes. Agreed that if a college doesn't accept Vo-Tech credits, they should. That can be accomplished by agreement on standards...which doesn't explain triple the cost. LOL
 
Which was great when you graduated and could get a good job via blue-collar type training to be a machinist/mechanic/assembly line worker, for free. Try doing that now. Try even getting a job much over minimum wage now with just a h.s. diploma.

That's the problem with old conservatives. Most of them are as old as you and I, RB, and think that anyone in America can get a good-paying job w/o higher education, like in our day... if you knew someone.

I worked my way up from a simple machine operator making $3,25 an hr. to manager of a machine shop. The GF's nephew (mid 30's?) worked from a cook in HS to the district manager of a well known restaurant chain (not a fast food joint). The GF (HS grad) was promoted some time back to a great position (she does much less now as the assistant to the CEO). They split her old job into 2 parts (one was just scheduling), now both need a college degree. My cousin, a HS grad (smart guy) started as a Maintenance I, is now one of the engineers at his company.
The problem is these "human resources" people, especially in these corporate businesses, all have college degrees and think only college grads can do the jobs HS grads could do when we were younger (maybe they aren't as smart and motivated out of HS as we were?). My point is, you don't always need a degree, just to work your way up. I trained the guy who I recommended for my position when I retired. I actually liked training him, he was attentive and asked questions.
Yeah, my father was the Past Master of the local Masonic Lodge, lots of business owners, CEOs, etc. in the lodge. Stupid me didn't ask him to get me a good job at a lodge member's business :doh:
 
I worked my way up from a simple machine operator making $3,25 an hr. to manager of a machine shop. The GF's nephew (mid 30's?) worked from a cook in HS to the district manager of a well known restaurant chain (not a fast food joint). The GF (HS grad) was promoted some time back to a great position (she does much less now as the assistant to the CEO). They split her old job into 2 parts (one was just scheduling), now both need a college degree. My cousin, a HS grad (smart guy) started as a Maintenance I, is now one of the engineers at his company.
The problem is these "human resources" people, especially in these corporate businesses, all have college degrees and think only college grads can do the jobs HS grads could do when we were younger (maybe they aren't as smart and motivated out of HS as we were?). My point is, you don't always need a degree, just to work your way up. I trained the guy who I recommended for my position when I retired. I actually liked training him, he was attentive and asked questions.
Yeah, my father was the Past Master of the local Masonic Lodge, lots of business owners, CEOs, etc. in the lodge. Stupid me didn't ask him to get me a good job at a lodge member's business :doh:

GF = your girlfriend? You have frequently said that she was a nurse. That requires more than a h.s. education. Again, you're talking about the good old days. You scorn higher education and believe it's not a necessity in today's world, because you don't have it yourself.
 
GF = your girlfriend? You have frequently said that she was a nurse. That requires more than a h.s. education. Again, you're talking about the good old days. You scorn higher education and believe it's not a necessity in today's world, because you don't have it yourself.

Nope. I never said she was a nurse. She was an Administrative Assistant until she was promoted.

Nope again. When my old company hired a college grad, he had a degree in CNC programming and said he was a machinist.
He was good at programming, but ask him to grind an internal snap ring grooving tool, he looked at me like I was retarded. He had no clue.
There's no way a recent college grad knows what took me nearly 40 years to learn, and I still don't know it all.
 
They are equally respectable career paths. Largely a matter of choice. My brother made three times what I did, but I loved my job and he couldn't wait to retire. College funding becomes problematic due to taxpayer cost and the fact the Republicans prefer most American voters remain poorly educated.

The welding classes I took could have been taken for college credit, albeit at triple the cost, or for $200 per 5-6 week class for a printed certificate. I opted for the $200 classes. Agreed that if a college doesn't accept Vo-Tech credits, they should. That can be accomplished by agreement on standards...which doesn't explain triple the cost. LOL

When I got out of the NAVY many companies were hiring machinist trainees, this was back in the early 70's . In addition 3 nights per week you could get your tool and die journeyman card from the National Tooling & Machining Association (Tool Design
Metallurgy, Metrology, Design) if you worked 2000 hours. It was given at the community college, if you added some other education courses you would get your associates degree. Most general Ed courses were transferable in the university of NY system that's how I got my bachelors in Mechanical engineering.
 
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