DeSantis showboating could cost Florida billions

I don't have to know what the exact number is. Employers in many sectors across Florida are in a panic and going to government meetings and letting them know they are in trouble.
If an employer is hiring illegal immigrants, they are ALREADY IN TROUBLE.
Trump himself at many of his hotels and properties relies on illegal migrant workers.
Fiction. Lying isn't going to work, dude.
What do you do when you have a large number of jobs that tend to pay so little that Americans do not want to do them?
They don't get done. So? If a business wants a job done, it must pay enough for someone to be willing to do it. What is so hard about this for you to understand?
The republi'can' answer across many States seems to be 'keep moving the age of the eligible workers down and hope younger and younger children might do them'.
So...children are willing to do the work, and they get paid. What's the problem?
Republi'cans' assume, maybe rightly, that because young kids do not have bills to pay, an hourly wage that would not be sustainable for an adult with bills may still motivate a child to go out and do back breaking work, for what is play money.
It's not the kid's fault the Democrats use play money for currency now. It's FDR's fault.
That is the republi'can' America. An increase in child labor similar to how it was decades and decades ago.
MAGA.
Good. The kids could use the money.
 
Wouldn't it be better to work out a bipartisan plan to allow these workers to become documented and legal? The (R)s control the U.S. House; why aren't they putting forth some solutions, rather than whining about nonexistent "problems" like trans athletes and CRT and Hunter Biden?

They are NOT non-existent problems. The solution already exists. Immigrate legally.
 
No. You're misunderstanding on purpose.

Trump was pro wall and got some built.

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

No i understand perfectly.


You don't care about the Wall. If Trump changes tomorrow and is anti wall, you will follow him and change too. You actively hate on people who supported the Wall being built, buying in to Trumps rhetoric and are angry that he built so little and so much time and money were wasted.

You are ok with the wasted time and effort as long as Trump put up one foot of Wall, as you don't really care about the Wall. You care about Trump only.
 
Ok well great. Just be honest about it in the future and stop pretending you care about issues or your complaints have any thing to do with merit.

If Trump is pro wall, you are pro wall. If the next day Trump is anti wall, you are then anti wall.

Your only position is 'whatever Trump says, i agree' and that is fine. Just own it.

I am pro wall, which is one of the reasons why I support Trump. Reversal fallacy.

My opinion. I own it.
 
I am pro wall, which is one of the reasons why I support Trump. Reversal fallacy.

My opinion. I own it.
Translation: I am pro-idiot. I own it


"Fixed fortifications are monuments to man’s stupidity. If mountain ranges and oceans can be overcome, anything made by man can be overcome.”
-- General George S. Patton


Layered defenses are superior to a single line of defense such as a wall. Only stupid people believe a wall, which ends at the ocean, can stop ladder, tunnel and boat technology.

Better to pass legislation that puts in prison those who hire, harbor or otherwise entice people to come to the US illegally or stay here illegally.

The end of the Wall in California:

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Translation: I am pro-idiot. I own it


"Fixed fortifications are monuments to man’s stupidity. If mountain ranges and oceans can be overcome, anything made by man can be overcome.”
-- General George S. Patton


Layered defenses are superior to a single line of defense such as a wall. Only stupid people believe a wall, which ends at the ocean, can stop ladder, tunnel and boat technology.

Better to pass legislation that puts in prison those who hire, harbor or otherwise entice people to come to the US illegally or stay here illegally.

The end of the Wall in California:

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You don't get to 'translate' for anyone Dutch. Omniscience fallacy.
 
When the republiclown voters see the price of their crudites going up, there will be blood in the streets.


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But they will not sit at the table as many 'R', especially those in the "freedom caucus' want to break America. They have given up on being able to win hearts and minds and win elections and realize they will continue to lose power on the current path, so they hope to break the system, send the US into a period of anarchy and hope for a Putin like, Trump like, leader to be able to emerge from that, that they believe will reflect their values and impose them regardless of vote.

No hyperbole in that. That is what they want and why they wanted the debt ceiling collapse. They will take the US in ashes as long as they can have control of those ashes.

I agree that that is what the politicians and some of their extremist base want, but aren't explaining it clearly to the normal ppl in their voter base. Thankfully they are in the minority and we saner types have far more numbers.
 
I agree that that is what the politicians and some of their extremist base want, but aren't explaining it clearly to the normal ppl in their voter base. Thankfully they are in the minority and we saner types have far more numbers.

The rich can afford apples at $10 a bag. Not that many RWers eat apples.

Agreed on good leadership being able to clearly and honestly explain the problems to their constituents....I'm not so sure we're in the majority. LOL
 
It's not a myth, Buckwheat. In 2011 Alabama passed a law similar to the FL one. As a result, farm workers left the state in droves, and crops rotted in the fields for lack of labor to harvest them. Alabama is one of the few states that allows the use of low paid or unpaid prison labor. Their solution to the missing farm workers was to draft inmates from state prisons to do the work. The inmates went on strike. Even American INMATES won't work for what the migrant workers will.

LET THE CROPS ROT IN THE FIELD

Because they did not want to pay a decent wage. I thought you liberals were all about $15 an hour
 
Exactly.

Republi'cans' count on the base not being able to put 2+2 together.

Could you continual push up the pay to labor to find a spot where Americans will hit the fields, in the scorching heat of summer and return to lives of picking crops? Sure I am sure there is a wage, if high enough, you good Americans to take that up.

That is why you see Republican politicians often say they are just trying to create better paying jobs for Americans by shutting down this cheap labor.


So now that happens. Farms cannot find cheap migrant labor and must pay significantly to entice Americans into the fields.

Will then American citizens pay significantly more in the grocery stores for fruits and veggies, that say 'picked by American workers', when right beside at a fraction of the cost is fruit and veggies grown in Mexico and south america, with their farming booming now, sending ever more produce as the American product prices are so high?


So what is the end result. Significant inflation in America due to the cost of this labor skyrocketing and the price of these staple goods skyrocketing. And then the loss of these farms (and many other industries) where American labor cannot compete.

The republiclowns will then blame Dems for that too as they cannot foresee what 2+2 equals, and thus they do not connect the 'cause' and 'result' that happen over time.


You Democrats want $15 an hour
 
You must be a no information hateful Democrat

He's a Poe, dumbass. If you let go of your hatred, you'd see he's one of you.

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Poe's Law: it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied
 
Because they did not want to pay a decent wage. I thought you liberals were all about $15 an hour

You get your "thoughts" from your masters who want you to believe certain false things.

Of course farmers don't want to "pay a decent wage." They can't afford to. That's why they hire migrant workers, legal or not legal. Duh.
 
Back before Biden opened the borders, workers came on temporary visas and harvested the crops. Then they went home.

Biden changed all that. He hasn’t gotten one policy issue right in 40 years.
 
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