EXPERTS ARE PREDICTING AN ‘EXPLOSION’ OF INEXPENSIVE ELECTRIC CARS

If they can get charge time down to ten minutes then I would switch but here’s another problem

How long until people running charging stations start charging as much as gas costs?

Or even more?
 
Joe Capitalist said:
COMPANY MAKES MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH IN SOLVING ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WITH EVS:
‘WE’VE SPENT OVER A DECADE IN THE LABS’

by Jill Ettinger*/*May 20, 2023

If your electric vehicle (EV) could charge in less time than it takes to grab a cup of coffee, would you make the switch? One tech company thinks it can solve the charging challenge and reduce “range anxiety,” too.*
California-based Sila, a leading advanced battery materials company, announced that it has achieved a 20% increase in EV range per charge. It said it can also deliver faster charging capabilities through the development of nano-composite silicon-anode battery technology.
Dubbed Titan Silicon, Sila’s battery innovation features silicon anodes that can go from a 10% charge to an 80% charge in just 20 minutes. The company said it thinks it can reduce this time even further — getting it down to 10 minutes in future iterations.
“With the wide adoption of EVs, consumers are looking for best-in-class solutions that deliver best-in-class performance, and our solutions provide just that: longer range and faster charge,” Gene Berdichevsky, Sila’s co-founder and CEO, told Freethink.
Sila’s technology also claims to reduce battery weight by up to 15% and increase space by up to 20%, and it’s also compatible with existing battery form factors.
Silicon anodes have been touted as the next significant advancement in battery technology for years. A number of car companies, including Tesla and General Motors, have shown enthusiasm for the tech. But the first EV manufacturer to access the tech is expected to be Germany’s Mercedes-Benz. Its 2024 EQG will feature the Titan Silicon cells, as InsideEVs reported.
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I was listening to a piece about silicon tech. on Public Radio the other day.

We aren't there yet, but the future is indeed promising.

Which is why I never buy first generation anything.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
If they can get charge time down to ten minutes then I would switch but here’s another problem

How long until people running charging stations start charging as much as gas costs?

Or even more?
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Can you make gasoline in your garage?

You can charge your car in a garage.
 
Joe Capitalist said:
Building electric charging stations for apartments is easy. All you need is an electrical source which all apartment buildings have.

Simple.
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so a wire hanging down from the electric transformer is enough?.......might be a bit dangerous, though......

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Joe Capitalist said:
Building electric charging stations for apartments is easy. All you need is an electrical source which all apartment buildings have.

Simple.
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No, it's not. Your comments show an utter and complete ignorance of how apartment building electrical systems work.

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See that? That's typical apartment meter and service entry panel--for 6 apartments in this case. Each apartment has its own meter and service disconnect breaker (under the square flap next to the meter). That breaker is usually an 80 or 100 amp 240 VAC single phase.

To install a charging system would require the installation of buried conduit, pulled THW wire suitable for the load, and then installation of the charging station. I'd guess, per station in an existing apartment complex of the sort I go to on service calls, that each station would run somewhere between $3000 and $5000 to install depending on the lengths of runs and how much concrete and asphalt has to be cut and replaced. It might run more. If there are issues with the service panel, or the panel has insufficient power in it to handle the extra load you're looking at another, roughly, $10,000 to replace it.

All of that is because the landlord doesn't pay for electricity. Each tenant pays their own bill off their own meter. Then there's the issue with theft. One tenant uses another tenant's charging station to charge their vehicle. The tenant who had electricity stolen would then have to sue the one that stole it, assuming they could figure out who it is. Or, someone who doesn't even live in the complex steals a charge and disappears. Good luck getting that back.

Then there's copper thieves, etc. The whole idea that you can put in masses of charging stations at an apartment complex is absurdly asinine and expensive. If the landlord is the one owning the stations and they charge per use, they could simply jack the rate per KWH charged through the rafters. You don't like it? Go somewhere else to charge. The landlord could easily justify it on the basis of theft and vandalism along with recouping the cost of installation.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
If they can get charge time down to ten minutes then I would switch but here’s another problem

How long until people running charging stations start charging as much as gas costs?

Or even more?
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It is about supply and demand. If stations start charging too much, then people will charge more at home. There is no similar thing people can do if gas stations start charging too much.

Electricity gets you options. A lot is made that you can get electricity from gasoline easily, but think about this: can you get gasoline from electricity? If you do not have easy access to electricity through the grid(rare, but possible), you can easily use a portable generator to generate electricity from gasoline. If you do not have gasoline, but are connected to the electrical grid, you still do not have gasoline. If gasoline prices go up, but you still have cheap hydro electric power, you are going to have to pay through the nose for gasoline.

And if the oil companies who control how much the gas stations can charge jack up the prices, you are stuck paying higher prices or going nowhere.... Assuming you do not have an electric car.
 
Walt said:
It is about supply and demand. If stations start charging too much, then people will charge more at home. There is no similar thing people can do if gas stations start charging too much.

Electricity gets you options. A lot is made that you can get electricity from gasoline easily, but think about this: can you get gasoline from electricity? If you do not have easy access to electricity through the grid(rare, but possible), you can easily use a portable generator to generate electricity from gasoline. If you do not have gasoline, but are connected to the electrical grid, you still do not have gasoline. If gasoline prices go up, but you still have cheap hydro electric power, you are going to have to pay through the nose for gasoline.

And if the oil companies who control how much the gas stations can charge jack up the prices, you are stuck paying higher prices or going nowhere.... Assuming you do not have an electric car.
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If you can charge at home you do. It takes seconds to plug in and go inside from the garage. Plugging in elsewhere is just what you do if you go someplace and they have chargers in their lot. Then you my plug-in and top off. The electric company will help pay for chargers and they tell you when it is cheapest to plug in.
 
Walt said:
It is about supply and demand. If stations start charging too much, then people will charge more at home. There is no similar thing people can do if gas stations start charging too much.

Electricity gets you options. A lot is made that you can get electricity from gasoline easily, but think about this: can you get gasoline from electricity? If you do not have easy access to electricity through the grid(rare, but possible), you can easily use a portable generator to generate electricity from gasoline. If you do not have gasoline, but are connected to the electrical grid, you still do not have gasoline. If gasoline prices go up, but you still have cheap hydro electric power, you are going to have to pay through the nose for gasoline.

And if the oil companies who control how much the gas stations can charge jack up the prices, you are stuck paying higher prices or going nowhere.... Assuming you do not have an electric car.
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If stations start charging too much and you don't own a home, then what? Where do you go?

Hydroelectric power isn't available everywhere. In fact, it's quite limited. A portable generator using gasoline to charge your car is going to set you back $500 or more. Then you have to haul it to where you're going to use it. That means you better own a pickup truck, not a car.
 
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