Another Republican disaster

T. A. Gardner said:
Because they were the official contractor of record and supervising the clean up. That makes them responsible, and the EPA even grudgingly had to admit they had legal responsibility.
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Just how can someone who is overseeing the clean-up of a spill responsible for that spill if they are not the ones who spilled it?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
you clearly lack even a basic understanding of how the game of politics is played. Instead, you're a lemming who swallows the blue colored koolaid and spews the talking points they tell you to.
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You clearly don't want to see the connection between this accident and republicans, try reading the news a little.
 
Gondwanaland said:
As the fire was due to failed wheel bearings, a brake system regulation has nothing to do with it (PS trains already have electronic brakes you ignorant fuck). Good grief, use your fucking brians.
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With brakes that could stop the train in 60% less time and distance that train would quite possibly have stopped before it derailed.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
I totally agree with where the Blame is- The idea to let the fire burn itself out.

Sure there was a maintenance issue with the tank cars brakes, so that's on the railroad.

But whoever made this decision to let the fire burn itself out, should be taken out and shot- unless....that was the only solution.

But, let's be sure who made this call, as it could have been there was not a proper emergency response team available to put the fire out.

This may go back to an Infrastructure problem. Perhaps Ohio needs a better Emergency Response capability than it has now.

Thanks for being first in pointing this out and saving me the trouble!

Let the lawsuits begin!
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In hindsight I think setting fire to the VC was probably the smart thing to do. Get the people out of the area and destroy as much of the VC as possible before it contaminates half of eastern Ohio.
 
Port Tack said:
Except if the train was able to stop a lot quicker the train may not have derailed.
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We have not yet so far as I have seen been allowed how long before the train derailed they set off the hot box detector.

It is very possible that they made no effort to cut out that car because that would have cost money, and caused problems because there simply are not enough people on the property anymore to get the work done, because the oligarchs running this RR are driving 24.4% profit margins so that they can take the money.
 
Phantasmal said:
There are some that have air brakes.

“Specifically, regulators killed provisions requiring rail cars carrying hazardous flammable materials to be equipped with electronic braking systems to stop trains more quickly than conventional air brakes. Norfolk Southern had previously toutedthe new technology — known as Electronically Controlled Pneumatic (ECP) brakes — for its “potential to reduce train stopping distances by as much as 60 percent over conventional air brake systems.”

https://www.levernews.com/rail-companies-blocked-safety-rules-before-ohio-derailment/
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Yes but when it came time for them to be required they lobbied and got republicans to kill that requirement.

A rule was passed under President Barack Obama that made it a requirement for trains carrying hazardous flammable materials to have ECP brakes. This was rescinded in 2017 by the Trump administration. The National Transportation Safety Board, a federal agency responsible for investigating rail accidents, said the Ohio train that derailed was not fitted with ECP brakes.
 
Port Tack said:
Yes but when it came time for them to be required they lobbied and got republicans to kill that requirement.

A rule was passed under President Barack Obama that made it a requirement for trains carrying hazardous flammable materials to have ECP brakes. This was rescinded in 2017 by the Trump administration. The National Transportation Safety Board, a federal agency responsible for investigating rail accidents, said the Ohio train that derailed was not fitted with ECP brakes.
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There is no evidence I am aware of that the brakes made any difference here.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Paine was dead wrong here.

Government is the one essential to civilization and order. Without it there is only anarchy and chaos. Which apparently is what people like you long for.
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It's amusing that you deign to call me 'dumberthanmost', when it's been quite clear that the dumb one is you. You clearly didn't read what Paine wrote. Nobody, even Paine, is saying that government isn't necessary, it's just a necessary evil. But, like most fuckhead liberals, you ALWAYS have to go to the extreme and read the most hyperbolic bullshit you can.
 
Port Tack said:
With brakes that could stop the train in 60% less time and distance that train would quite possibly have stopped before it derailed.
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Except:
1. Biden had 2 years to put it back into place if he wanted.
2. Under Buttigieg they are looking at loosening brake requirements even more
3. The thing in question wrt Trump was for ethanol and crude oil transport, and would not have affected this.
 
Port Tack said:
Except if the train was able to stop a lot quicker the train may not have derailed.
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Except:
1. Biden had 2 years to put it back into place if he wanted.
2. Under Buttigieg they are looking at loosening brake requirements even more
3. The thing in question wrt Trump was for ethanol and crude oil transport, and would not have affected this.
 
Into the Night said:
No, the fire was not caused by wheel bearings failing.
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Yes, it was:
https://fox8.com/news/ntsb-footage-shows-train-glowing-before-e-palestine-derailment/

A train that derailed in East Palestine, spilling toxic chemicals, may have been caused by an overheating wheel bearing, according to federal investigators.

The National Transportation Safety Board in a preliminary report released Tuesday, Feb. 14, cited surveillance footage of the train captured at a residence that indicates one of its wheel bearings was “in the final stage of overheat failure” moments before the derailment. That wheel bearing was on the car that “initiated the derailment,” according to the release.
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Frank Apisa said:
No, I am not.

I see the truth...and here, the truth is that if you are unable by principle to vote for the Democrat, best you just not vote rather than cast a ballot for the Republican.

At best, the Republican Party can be the loyal opposition. The Republican Party has no aptitude for actual governing...and government by them is almost worse than no governance at all. They have become the party of "government is the problem"...and do the horrible, ineffective, debilitating things that boost that kind of thinking.

Government is NOT the problem...government is an absolutely essential element of society and civilization.

The Republican Party was once a proud, decent, reasonable loyal opposition. But it has become a cesspool for the most damage people on this planet.

Do not vote for them...and do not suppose that advising people not to vote for them is the result of brainwashing or delusion.
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Government is not God.
No. I do not support The Oligarchy.
 
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