Would Americans fight for their country like Ukrainians?

[PoliTalker]

Hello Nordberg,

People stay and fight because they have nowhere to go. They also love their homeland or are comfortable there. That is why attacking a country does not work out well in the long run. American expansion has created millions of refugees, But as in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, and other countries, we are out. We spent treasury and blood, then came home.
Americas would fight if we were attacked. Polling is crap.

A good assessment. Imaginary scenarios are one thing. Talk is cheap. Reality is another.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Hello Dutch Uncle,



Thank you, Tucker Carlson. Now, most young people have no faith in our country. Great job, Tucker. I hope ya think the money is worth it.

I do not.

Something going on, Poli? You seem out of sorts today.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Cypress,

I am not talking about the ability to point and shoot a gun.

I can do that.

The question was how would the fortitude, ferocity, and tenacity of Americans compare to Ukranians in the same situation

My money is on the Ukranians. I am not a keyboard blowhard who feels compelled to compare myself favorably to Rambo and Seal Team 6.

Ukrainians still continue to fight ferociously to defend cities that have been reduced to smoking piles of ash. They are fighting for cities which don't even really exist anymore. They were outgunned from day one, but have never let the Russians capture a single major Ukranian city outside of Kherson, and even that city is being contested now.

At best, America as a nation is untested against defending the home and hearth against an overwhelming force of invaders.

Tenacity in the defense of home and hearth is bred into the DNA of East Slavs, who have a thousand year history of having to tenaciously face off against hordes of bloodthirsty invaders bent on pillage and annihilation.

Americans on the whole take what we have totally for granted.

 

[Cypress]

Hello Cypress,



Americans on the whole take what we have totally for granted.

You have a lot of Americans on this forum complaining about paying more for gasoline as a result of our supporting Ukraine's defense of democracy, while Ukrainians are hunkered down in the rubble of flattened cities refusing to surrender to invading legions.

That does not inspire a lot of confidence that Americans would have the same tenacity and fortitude as Ukranians if the situation was reversed.

 

[Earl]

You have a lot of Americans on this forum complaining about paying more for gasoline as a result of our supporting Ukraine's defense of democracy, while Ukrainians are hunkered down in the rubble of flattened cities refusing to surrender to invading legions.

That does not inspire a lot of confidence that Americans would have the same tenacity and fortitude as Ukranians if the situation was reversed.

The increase in oil prices started a year ago.

Your false narrative is just that, false.

Biden canceled the pipeline on day one and exploration, off shore and in ANWAR and fracking. We were energy independent during President Trump's term.

Why do you lie?

 

[volsrock]

Yup these sicko darlings of the left are fighters

 

[Nordberg]

The increase in oil prices started a year ago.

Your false narrative is just that, false.

Biden canceled the pipeline on day one and exploration, off shore and in ANWAR and fracking. We were energy independent during President Trump's term.

Why do you lie?

That pipeline was not going to do a damn thing about American gas supplies. Oil giants have over 9000 land leases to drill on. Giving them more changes nothing. It still takes a long time before leases turn into oil. We are producing more oil in America than we did last year. Gas prices are determined on speculation in commodity markets. Russia's warring ways has taken their supply so the world has less. What did Biden do that matters to gas prices.?

 

[Rune]

Pussy leftists.

Prove it you scrotum lapping faggot.

 

[Rune]

not sure about you, but i've not seen many overweight, or muscular, leftists due to the soymilk latte, kale salads, and whatever other grassy food stuffs they eat to be 'healthy'..........no?

Nope, no bias here.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Hello Cypress,

Americans on the whole take what we have totally for granted.

Agreed. What is your solution?

The draft used to be a great equalizer in our society but that's been gone for over 50 years and now we have a couple generations of very selfish and self-entitled Americans who believe their needs outweigh everyone else's.

 

[Cypress]

Wrong.

Past analyses by the group have estimated that about 3 million veterans served in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, either in direct combat deployments or support roles. The median age of the group now is just under 37 years old.Aug 18, 2021

Sorry, a guy like you who sat on your ass in an air conditioned office and directed Air Force traffic does not qualify as Rambo.

I do not question how many Americans have been on a target range practicing shots. I am one of them.

The issue is whether Americans, on average, would have the same tenacity as Ukrainians hunkered down in the rubble of destroyed cities and refusing to surrender, if we were in their shoes

 

[Rune]

Wouldn't it matter who was trying to invade America?

If Sweden or Denmark or the Netherlands were invading to try to civilize us, shouldn't we be on their side?

Right now, America needs liberation as much as anybody on the planet.

Fucking Biden. If he were a man, he'd have the heads of Rhonda Santis and Ironside Abbott mounted on stakes on each side of the White House front door.

Yeah, Sweden and especially Denmark did a great job civilizing Europe.
WTF, Dopey, you are going to side with the invaders?
Your type gives Progs a bad name.
You should shut the fuck up now.

 

[Nordberg]

The fact is nearly all Americans would fight viciously to protect their homeland and their families. That is what people do.

 

[Rune]

I think USA has a well led and well equipped professional army that performs well under all circumstances.

If the question is how would America compare to Ukraine in a situation of total war in the face of an invader, I don't think we would be particularly formidable, outside of our professional army.

A bunch of untrained yahoos running around with their AR15s and shotguns would probably be more of a danger to civilians and our own professional soldiers, than the threat they would would pose to well armed and organized invaders.

Ukraine has a long history of being invaded by bloody thirsty adversaries bent on annihilation and pillage. There is kernel of truth to the fortitude of the East Slavs in defending their home and hearth against Invaders. Those poor bastards are still fighting ferociously to defend Marupiel and Kharkiv, even though those cities have been reduced to smoking piles of rubble.

America has not faced an invader in 220 years, and we have never faced a total war against invading forces in our entire history.

At best, America as a nation is untested in the realm of a total war against invaders on our soil. My guess, is that our nation would be relatively soft in the face of the utter destruction that the Ukranians are facing.

The last time America was invaded just 3% resisted and booted the British off the Continent.

Be assured the US can not be invaded by conventional troops.

 

[Rune]

The fact is nearly all Americans would fight viciously to protect their homeland and their families. That is what people do.

Yes, this thread is stupid and moot.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Yeah, Sweden and especially Denmark did a great job civilizing Europe.
WTF, Dopey, you are going to side with the invaders?
Your type gives Progs a bad name.
You should shut the fuck up now.

I probably won't.

 

[anatta]

You have a lot of Americans on this forum complaining about paying more for gasoline as a result of our supporting Ukraine's defense of democracy, while Ukrainians are hunkered down in the rubble of flattened cities refusing to surrender to invading legions.

That does not inspire a lot of confidence that Americans would have the same tenacity and fortitude as Ukranians if the situation was reversed.

I would fight and die for the USA if invaded
I'm not willingly going to fight or pay for "Ukraine democracy" - which doesnt exist

 

[Nordberg]

I would fight and die for the USA if invaded
I'm not willingly going to fight or pay for "Ukraine democracy" - which doesnt exist

Not now. Putin is shredding their country and it is in chaos.

 

[Celticguy]

Are you saying the "MSM is lying"? An intelligence operation of some sort?

The "fog of war" is simply the lack of information on a fluid battlefront. Manufacturing an impression with an intelligence operation is like the British ruse of Operation Mincement; a corpse dressed in a British officer uniform and dumped off the coast of neutral Spain with fake classified papers.

This strike could very well be Ukrainian, but why would they deny it? It could be a Russian ruse, but who blows up their own oil depot? If the Russians wanted a ruse of Ukrainians attacking inside Russia, they'd just take prisoners, dress them up in Russian and Ukrainian uniforms then shoot them.

IMO, this is Russians saying "Fuck you" to Putin's war.

What do you believe is the intent here?

the media and government lying ? BLASPHEMY !

Of course they're lying, all sides though not NECESSARILLY equally.

I have little or no faith in ANY information coming out.

 

[Rune]

Hello Dutch Uncle,



No big surprise right-leaning Quinnipiac somehow arrives at results that show Republicans to be way more patriotic than Democrats. Gee, I wonder how that happened?

You have to be seriously lib-tarded to think that Quinnipiac polls have a right wing bias.
Shut the fuck up you fucking moron.