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moon
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Zelensky was empowered by way of a US-backed coup. The pro-Russian president was ousted.
moon
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' Jack ' is a card-carrying dumbass.
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There are over 40 active parties in the Ukraine. How is this even close to "much if not all" of the opposition?
The above is a mischaracterization of this. This isn't that kind of power grab. It's a logical move during war.
"US-backed coup" = free, fair, and open elections.
Zelensky won an open, free and fair election, he wasn't installed.
Winning elections isn't something most Conservatives have experience with, so they naturally think any election they don't win is corrupt.
Yes, you absolutely ban the parties that are backing the invader, spreading their disinformation, and beefing up their ranks with Nazis and Russians.
moon
Satire for Sanity
I said ' by way of ' the US-backed coup.. Porishenko was installed . Zelensky followed with an election minus the votes of the pro-Russian separatists.
Are you going to deny that there was a US-backed coup ?
Again, free and fair elections are not a coup attempt.
Zelensky was elected in a free and fair election.
What may have come before Zalensky has nothing to do with the fact that he won an open election, which is something Conservatives haven't done here since 1988.
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Right, because those Nazis were Russians that Putin installed there.
There was no coup when Zalensky was elected.
The only election coup attempt was the one your Nazi pals attempted in DC on 1/6/21.
moon
Satire for Sanity
As I said- Poroshenko split the country. Zelensky was elected without the participation of the pro-Russian electorate.
Please don't make me say it again,
You mean without the participation of the Russians Putin installed in the Ukrainian territories he invaded and annexed.
It wasn't a pro-Russian electorate, it was literally Russians that Putin imported into Ukraine after he invaded and annexed it.
Why would Ukraine count those votes? They don't control that territory, Putin does because he annexed it.
He installed his people in those territories and coopted the minority parties there, much like how Klansmen and Nazis have coopted the GOP after a years-long propaganda and espionage effort from Moscow dating back to at least 2014.
What Russia did politically in Crimea and Donetsk is what they did politically in the UK during Brexit, and then in the US during the 2016 and 2020 elections.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Now you're being a dumbass. The Donbas population are Ukrainians and Russia didn't invade the Donbas. Russia supported the Donbas as the US supported the heirs of its coup.
Russia, of course, didn't annex the Donbas. It comprises two independent Republics.
You can't have it both ways, pal.
You can't acknowledge Putin's annexation of Donetsk and Crimea and then dumbly wonder aloud why votes from those regions weren't counted in Zalensky's election.
You know why they weren't included in the election? Because Ukraine didn't control that territory, Putin did.
Not talking about just Donbass, talking about Crimea and Donetsk.
And Russia had infiltrated Donbass years ago, and it was one of the first places they occupied when they invaded three weeks ago:
OK, but Russia's "support" of Donbass was the original coup.
Russia imported those assets into Donbass PRIOR to the 2014 war.
Those assets instigated the conflict and prompted Russia's invasion of Donetsk and Crimea.
It's always been Russia and now you're repeating their propaganda for them like a useful idiot.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Are you for real ? Russia hasn't annexed Donetsk and Lugasnk. They declared independence. They didn't participate in the elections and so the pro-NATO dunce won it.