So ... you support his Right to have a Gun in his own house. And you support his Right to sleep in his own house.
WHO committed the 'crime' here?
The sleeping guy?
Or the Goon Squad that kicked his door in?
Another 'No Knock' killing.
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So ... you support his Right to have a Gun in his own house. And you support his Right to sleep in his own house.
WHO committed the 'crime' here?
The sleeping guy?
Or the Goon Squad that kicked his door in?
Yes,...as we all know all normal upstanding citizens sleep with a gun in their hand and live with people that are so bad that they have no knock warrants served on them.
GOVERNMENT BULLETS GOVERNMENT BULLETS! "The truth is people from all walks of life, from ex-military to ministers to mayors and even babies and children have been killed in no knock warrants, often at the wrong address"
Thank you. (I doubt this will sink in to TD, but thanks for trying)
The crime would be in the legal/court system IMO. They are the ones who made the no knocks legal in that state. The officers were only executing a legal strategy at serving a warrant. It is the court system that needs to be dealt with.
Yes,...as we all know all normal upstanding citizens sleep with a gun in their hand and live with people that are so bad that they have no knock warrants served on them.
From what some of our gun-humpers say here, they do indeed have weapons at the bedside because you just never know when the ̶g̶a̶n̶g̶s̶t̶e̶r̶s̶, ̶d̶r̶u̶g̶g̶i̶e̶s̶, ̶r̶a̶p̶i̶s̶t̶s̶ cops might kick your door in. Of course they're white so that's righteous.
I agree. 'Police Reform'. When the fuck will THAT be happening? 'No Knocks' should be REPEALED. It's a 'Right of the Citizen' vs 'State Power'.
Jack.....I am mostly poking fun at the left and how they seem to change their views a lot when it comes to use of force due to their own pathetic political BIAS. Also,....I am not sure as I have never looked it up, but I am guessing that no knocks arent just handed out like regular warrants are. I am guessing that they are reserved for the most dangerous folks, people considered armed and dangerous with a track record of violence. Now,....I am STILL no fan of no knocks for the most part,....just saying I would bet that they are handed out as a last resort for the most dangerous. Least thats what logic would dictate,...but who knows,.....some states are ran by full blown idiots, some are not.
Agree for the most part. But...lets look at this actual case. Lets say its you in that cops shoes. He enters the home,...a man raises up with a gun in his hand pointed in your direction. What are you going to do? I KNOW what Im doing thats for sure. The court system and the perp is who put that Leo in the situation IMO.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
Yes,...as we all know all normal upstanding citizens sleep with a gun in their hand and live with people that are so bad that they have no knock warrants served on them.
I sleep with a handgun on the nightstand right next to me.............is that bad?
reagansghost
eternal
not in this country, too late
One of my brothers got a gun, and I was there Christmas day and he had it on the table in the den. And there was extended family there with little kids, well, they are his wife's family, so what do I care? Except I knew if one of them started playing with that gun there was a bullet with my name on it. That's exactly what would happen. So I yelled at him, and then his wife got going on him, but he did say it's unloaded. And I was like, sure where have I heard that before? But either way, the box of bullets was right there! He did apologize and put it away and admit I was right.
Then his sister-in-law got started. Oh, his ears were set to ringing and a big fight ensued. But the gun was away so I didn't care anymore, and was just sipping my drink watching. I thought to myself "Am I not entertained?" Which I was.
Anyway, that's my gun story. I have assorted hooligans in my family, you know, MAGA types, and I accept them. They're good to me, and so far, they haven't shot me. But only family. Anyone outside of immediate family gets cut off. No guns, no MAGA's. That's the rule. If down the road someone in my family does shoot me, then I will update the rule.
Then his sister-in-law got started. Oh, his ears were set to ringing and a big fight ensued. But the gun was away so I didn't care anymore, and was just sipping my drink watching. I thought to myself "Am I not entertained?" Which I was.
Anyway, that's my gun story. I have assorted hooligans in my family, you know, MAGA types, and I accept them. They're good to me, and so far, they haven't shot me. But only family. Anyone outside of immediate family gets cut off. No guns, no MAGA's. That's the rule. If down the road someone in my family does shoot me, then I will update the rule.
Geeko Sportivo
Verified User
Anyone can impersonate a Police Officer, deck themselves out in Tactical clothing, and BARGE INTO SOMEONE'S HOUSE, SAY THEY ARE THE POLICE, AND START SHOOTING PEOPLE!
So, in the defense of the murder victim, HOW DID HE KNOW THESE WERE ACTUAL POLICE BARGING IN ON HIM IN THIS HOME INVASION?
Policemen used to have to show their badge and serve a warrant!
This is the problem with NO KNOCK police tactics.
Because they have turned into "SHOOT FIRST AND ASK QUESTIONS LATER" tactics that are getting innocent people killed and NO KNOCK policies should be against the Constitution.
A MAN HAS A RIGHT TO DEFEND HIS HOME AND HIS FAMILY AGAINST "ALL" Intruders- Unless a warrant has been duly served and a badge of authority is presented (IN PLAIN SIGHT) to the recipient of said warrant.
This victim was not even the target of the warrant- AN ARREST OR SEARCH WARRANT MUST BE PRESENTED TO THE ACTUAL RECIPIENT OF THE WARRANT!
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No,...that is much more normal though then actually sleeping with it on your person.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
never served in a combat zone, did you?
Not cool. As one who has a PT job as a firearms instructor, I work with the cops a lot but strongly disagree with no-knock warrants. Too dangerous for cops and people inside the building. Much easier ways to do their business. As one who has a firearm always at hand, if in the middle of the night and my door comes crashing down, there will very likely be gunfire.
The past is the past and it should be left there. Especially after multiple decades pass. Guns? I fully support everyones right to have one. STRONG 2nd amendment supporter. As for myself,......I have minimal use for them. NOT saying I dont own any,....just saying I have minimal use at this particular point in time. That doesnt mean I wont in the future though, things can always change. I dont even hunt anymore and havent in a very long time.
Geeko Sportivo
Verified User
Do you ubderstand the reason for a no-knock warrant?
Were they at the correct address?
Was Amir accidentally at this address?
Is he known by the occupants of this office?
No we do not ubderstand the reason for a NO KNOCK warrant!
NEXT!
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With all that racket?Sorry but that was funny.
CNN apparently trying to make light of the incident.
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
It's a crime to sleep in your own house if you should be sleeping in prison.
Was he a felon if so he was not supposed to have a gun in his hand