Birthers are crazies.

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Born in Hawaii! Hmm, wonder if she's a "native born" citizen or a naturalized immigrant.

Hmmmm, was it before statehood, we could have a problem here, didn't they all have to take the citizenship test when Hawaii and Alaska were made states? ahahahahahah

 

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Per US law, if you are born to a citizen of the USA, you are a citizen of the USA, unless you relinquish your rights as a citizen.

Talk about a non-issue! Did his Kansan mother give up her citizenship while she was in Hawaii? Did she do it in Kenya?

How stupid. All the military children would not be US citizens if that were the case!

Side note... you are incorrect above. The US law does not make you automatically a citizen just because one of your parents was a citizen. There are cases where that is not the such. Especially if the father was the US citizen and the mother not. They did this to prevent Vietnamese, Cambodian etc.... children from claiming US citizenship due to military ummmmm 'interactions' with the local women.

 

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is there a reason that he can't provide his birth certificate for all to see?

Just for the sake of discussion, what do you think would happen if the other form you want to see says he was born in Kenya?

 

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Thus proclaim the Queen Biatch!

WTF?? Don't you ever stop?

 

[christiefan915]

that is not a birth certificate...it's a certificate of live birth..

why wont he just allow Hawaii to release his BIRTH CERTIFICATE.??

I have a birth certificate from Hawaii and it looks NOTHING like that one..

Maybe it changed in all the years between your birth and his.

 

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Side note... you are incorrect above. The US law does not make you automatically a citizen just because one of your parents was a citizen. There are cases where that is not the such. Especially if the father was the US citizen and the mother not. They did this to prevent Vietnamese, Cambodian etc.... children from claiming US citizenship due to military ummmmm 'interactions' with the local women.

http://immigration.findlaw.com/immi...-citizenship-naturalization-did-you-know.html

So it doesn't apply to Obama, right! He isn't Vietnamese or Cambodian and what discrimination! If they had American fathers, then they should be citizens.

 

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amazing the lengths and hatred the left has for those seeking additional documents when the left frothed at the mouth to get anything it could on bush such as school records, military records....

the hypocrisy of the left would be funny if they weren't so serious

 

[christiefan915]

To be clear, I think he was born in Hawaii and this is thus a non issue. But to play along...

Assume he was born in Kenya. As long as ONE of his parents (his mom in this case) was a US citizen, it does not matter that his father was not or that he was born in Kenya provide his mom lived in the US for at least ten years (which she did) and that five of those years were after turning 14... now this is the catch... if she had him in Kenya, then she would not have quite made the 5 year part.

That is the requirement by US law. I posted the actual law on another thread on this topic. So technically, he would not have been a natural born citizen had he been born outside of the US.

That said... records show that his father was still attending the University of Hawaii from which he graduated in June of 1962. So what reason would his mom have had for going to Kenya if Obamas father was still in Hawaii???????

This is why I hate conspiracy nuts.... they dont pay attention when the FACTs prove their conspiracies are false.

Exactly right.

 

[christiefan915]

Side note... you are incorrect above. The US law does not make you automatically a citizen just because one of your parents was a citizen. There are cases where that is not the such. Especially if the father was the US citizen and the mother not. They did this to prevent Vietnamese, Cambodian etc.... children from claiming US citizenship due to military ummmmm 'interactions' with the local women.

Can you elaborate on this? What I read was that being born on a military installation in a foreign country didn't confer citizenship unless at least one of the parents was American... but I could be wrong.

 

[christiefan915]

WTF?? Don't you ever stop?

Go over to the "Report a Post" thread and give this advice to the stooges.

Thanking you in advance...

 

[christiefan915]

as damo pointed out....all they have is mockery...

shows you the level of immaturity of many of the libs on this board

Do you have any explanation for how Obama's not a citizen, given all the legal and government sites that have been posted among the different threads?

 

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http://immigration.findlaw.com/immi...-citizenship-naturalization-did-you-know.html

So it doesn't apply to Obama, right! He isn't Vietnamese or Cambodian and what discrimination! If they had American fathers, then they should be citizens.

It applies to all nationalities where the mother is not a US citizen.

Bottom line, I already showed that Obama's father was still in Hawaii when Obama was born. Thus, there is no reason his mother would have gone to Kenya for the birth if his father was still in Hawaii.

 

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Do you have any explanation for how Obama's not a citizen, given all the legal and government sites that have been posted among the different threads?

i don't...nor do i care to....i've engaged in these hypotheticals with liberals like you before and then you guys turn around and call me a birther....its dishonest and there are plenty of theories out there

i merely point out where you guys are factually and legally wrong...for instance ib1 said obama showed his original...not true, you guys all cite factcheck that he did....not true...its the lefts lies about the issue that also add fuel to the fire

 

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i don't...nor do i care to....i've engaged in these hypotheticals with liberals like you before and then you guys turn around and call me a birther....its dishonest and there are plenty of theories out there

i merely point out where you guys are factually and legally wrong...for instance ib1 said obama showed his original...not true, you guys all cite factcheck that he did....not true...its the lefts lies about the issue that also add fuel to the fire

I didn't say he showed his original, you fucking liar. I have always maintained that it was a reissue by the state of Hawaii. And it is.

 

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amazing the lengths and hatred the left has for those seeking additional documents when the left frothed at the mouth to get anything it could on bush such as school records, military records....

the hypocrisy of the left would be funny if they weren't so serious

and he never supplied any of them, did he. our concerns were legit, this is just nonsense!

 

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and he never supplied any of them, did he. our concerns were legit, this is just nonsense!

not true at all.....tell me...how did we find out bush's grades were better than mccain....

people like you are exactly why this is still going on...you're dishonest or flat out wrong

 

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It applies to all nationalities where the mother is not a US citizen.

Bottom line, I already showed that Obama's father was still in Hawaii when Obama was born. Thus, there is no reason his mother would have gone to Kenya for the birth if his father was still in Hawaii.

HUH? The mother is a US citizen, what are you talkin about? His mother's citizenship was never in question to my knowledge, she was born in Kansas, so how does this apply to Obama? Isn't that who we're talking about?

 

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I didn't say he showed his original, you fucking liar. I have always maintained that it was a reissue by the state of Hawaii. And it is.

bullcrap...you mocked me that the certification is not the original and used the nitpicky defense....you've even cited the factcheck article saying it was the original

but i'm glad you now admit obama has never shown the original and that citing the factcheck article that says he did is false as factcheck's article is 100% false


and dumbass....you can stop sending repeated PM's....i simply delete them you obsessive freak...

 

[ib1yysguy]

bullcrap...you mocked me that the certification is not the original and used the nitpicky defense....you've even cited the factcheck article saying it was the original

but i'm glad you now admit obama has never shown the original and that citing the factcheck article that says he did is false as factcheck's article is 100% false

Quote me saying it's the original, POS.

 

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Quote me saying it's the original, POS.

why did you say i was being nitpicky that the certificate and the certification are NOT the same thing?

how many more PM's are you to keep sending me you obsessive freak? i just delete, so don't waste your time