Biden freezes withdrawal of US troops from Germany

LV426 said:
Selling weapons to them is logistical support. Like, literally. We are literally supporting them logistically with weapons.
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that's a pretty loose term to support.
we sell weapons worldwide are we responsible worldwide for their use?
The logistics is targeting and tracking




No, it is because of our presence.

The entire reason behind 9/11 was because of the US occupying Saudi Holy Land, as bin Laden said in his 1996 manifesto "Declaration of War Against the Americans Who Occupy the Land of the Two Holy Mosques."

So AQ targeted us because of our presence in Saudi Arabia.

And we create whole new generations of terrorists by occupying countries like Iraq and Afghanistan.
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OBL is not the originator of Salafi Jihad
 
anatta said:
that's a pretty loose term to support.
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You're the one who established the standard.


we sell weapons worldwide are we responsible worldwide for their use?
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Yes. We are held responsible for them by the victims of them.


The logistics is targeting and tracking
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You're just making up that standard on the spot.


OBL is not the originator of Salafi Jihad
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No, but he's the one who declared the Jihad against us because of our presence in Muslim holy lands.
 
moon said:
Not just a presence- the deaths and displacement of millions of people through the proxy of Izrael.
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That too, for sure...but the crux of bin Laden's beef with us is that we stayed in Saudi Arabia after the first Gulf War.
 
LV426 said:
You're the one who established the standard.
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logistics term comes from State

Yes. We are held responsible for them by the victims of them.
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a meaningless standard
i get shot by a gun -is the manufacture culpable? no

No, but he's the one who declared the Jihad against us because of our presence in Muslim holy lands.
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that's AQ. mujāhidūn in Afghanistan predates -im sure there are earlier fatwa as well
 
anatta said:
logistics term comes from State
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Yeah, but you invented a definition on your own.


a meaningless standard
i get shot by a gun -is the manufacture culpable? no
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Yes. The manufacturer is definitely culpable, in my view.


that's AQ. mujāhidūn in Afghanistan predates -im sure there are earlier fatwa as well
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Right, and who led AQ? Bin Laden. So he issues this jihad in 1996, Clinton chases him around the Middle East and North Africa for 4 years, then Bush decides he doesn't give a shit about OBL, and 8 months later, we got 9/11
 
anatta said:
so we stay with a bloated force in Germany..what's the mission?
NATO expansion is mindless. Reducing troops in Germany is now impossible
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Germany gives us a forward operating base to project military assets to Africa, Balkans, Middle East, as necessary.

USA cannot realistically project military assets to those areas from bases in Wyoming
 
anatta said:
I know EXACTLY what he was doing. he was moving them to Poland -which DOES have strategic purpose
a fucked up confrontational style with Putin - making the Cold War2 even more dangerous, but it had a "purpose"
Poland like Ukraine would gladly suck at our military teat as greadily as possible

Trump got waylaid by the Russian Hoax. It's why he never got a chance for his Russian Reset, and why even attempts by him to do diplomacy with Putin got him called "Putin's Bitch" by Russiaphobes and Democrats
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A few troops in Germany is such a big deal now??

Personally I am concerned what he isn't doing.......... He has all trump moves on hold, wait & see, like Iran deal... I thought he had a plan?? Or rather his own plan, not just running trump plans & wait & see what happens....

He is going to clean out gitmo-another huge ass fight & for what?? NOTHING WILL BE GAINED........
 
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