San Francisco is certainly out of control. It has become too economically productive for its own good. When the average tech worker is making $400k, it is impossible for a low income artist to survive in the area.
Will Cities Survive 2020?
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San Francisco is certainly out of control. It has become too economically productive for its own good. When the average tech worker is making $400k, it is impossible for a low income artist to survive in the area.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Should Trump's Virus be renamed Trump's Ethnic Cleansing Virus?
Great job not wearing a mask. It's not for your protection but their's. Since they don't care if you are infected, why should you care? Spread the "wealth". LOL
You'd best read the post you quoted. I have a small garden in my back yard and woodlands close enough to hunt my food. And yes, there are farms close by.
This country will not collapse unless assholes like you take it over. You lack the respect and desire to keep it together.
So you are back to admitting you are not a farmer. Lets say you run out of money, why would the farmers close to you give you food? Lets say they do not have enough food to feed themselves, why would they part with some of their precious food for someone who does not have money, or anything to offer?
Save your infantile scenarios. I said I've worked on farms, not that I've ever, or do, own one. We rural folks look out for and take care of each other. You wouldn't understand.
The Anonymous
Bag On My Head
you are a moron. Everyone keeps telling you you are a moron. Why do you have such a need to be a moron?
It's taken him years and years to achieve the status of moron. He proud of his accomplishment.
So we are back to you claiming that for some reason people will give you food, and there is a lot of fresh fruit being picked in Pennsylvania during the Winter.
Sorry, I prefer the ability to earn money with which to buy food.
San Francisco is a victim of its own success, it ain’t going anywhere. Americans need the money it and New York produce. I do hope that the liberals will spread out a bit and just a few more of em move to Texas and Georgia.
Yeah, NYC’s eight million plus are going to move to Salina, Kansas, the right just can’t stand the fact that America is defined by its cities rather than some 19th Century Grandma Moses painting
Dense clusters of people living cheek by jowl enables the spread of deadly pathogens.
"It's a bit counterintuitive. Very large cities have problems of pollution and congestion, which are very difficult to solve," says Alain Bertaud, a senior research scholar at New York University's Marron Institute of Urban Management.
Historically, agglomeration effects have been powerful enough to prompt people to pour into cities in spite of the real hazards that density posed to residents' health and well-being.
An April article by economists Neil Cummins, Morgan Kelly, and Cormac Ó Gráda notes that from 1563 to 1665, there were four major plagues that each managed to kill off 25 percent of London's population.
In 1793, Philadelphia, then America's capital, was hit with a severe outbreak of yellow fever that killed 10 percent of the city's population. "It's pretty shocking, and it's something that the founding fathers had to deal with. I think it's left out of the musical Hamilton," says Catherine Brinkley, an assistant professor of community and regional development at the University of California, Davis.
"It's a bit counterintuitive. Very large cities have problems of pollution and congestion, which are very difficult to solve," says Alain Bertaud, a senior research scholar at New York University's Marron Institute of Urban Management.
Historically, agglomeration effects have been powerful enough to prompt people to pour into cities in spite of the real hazards that density posed to residents' health and well-being.
An April article by economists Neil Cummins, Morgan Kelly, and Cormac Ó Gráda notes that from 1563 to 1665, there were four major plagues that each managed to kill off 25 percent of London's population.
In 1793, Philadelphia, then America's capital, was hit with a severe outbreak of yellow fever that killed 10 percent of the city's population. "It's pretty shocking, and it's something that the founding fathers had to deal with. I think it's left out of the musical Hamilton," says Catherine Brinkley, an assistant professor of community and regional development at the University of California, Davis.
Walt, Have you ever heard of a greenhouse? There are lots of them right here in PA. And yes! They grow fruit, vegetables and flowers.
https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/special/greenhouses/greenhouse-tree-care-growing.htm
When there's nothing to buy, then what?
You couldn't follow it huh it's a shame what happened did one of those worms crawl into your ears and crawl around in your brain
The response is simple wear a face mask you inbred moron
actually what rural folks do is move to the big cities it's been that way for over a hundred years
How people move within cities and what kinds of jobs they do there have changed dramatically over time.
But one thing that's stayed largely constant is their intolerance for a long commute.
Most folks, whether they're medieval Parisians or modern Americans, are unwilling to spend more than 30 minutes traveling, one way, between home and work.
This iron law of urban commuting—sometimes known as Marchetti's constant, after Italian physicist Cesare Marchetti—has profound implications for how cities look, and, particularly, how sprawling or dense they can be.
If cities exist primarily as labor markets, and people are generally only willing to spend 30 minutes getting to work, the scale of an urban area's agglomeration effects is going to depend on (a) how many jobs your average city worker can reach within a half-hour's travel from his home and (b) how many employees can live within 30 minutes of your average city firm.
One can imagine two basic ways of adjusting for this reality: building up to accommodate more homes and firms within a given space, or speeding travel so that more destinations can be reached in a given amount of time.
Physical limits on both building and transportation technology meant that for the first few thousand years of their existence, cities tended to be pretty small, cramped places.
But one thing that's stayed largely constant is their intolerance for a long commute.
Most folks, whether they're medieval Parisians or modern Americans, are unwilling to spend more than 30 minutes traveling, one way, between home and work.
This iron law of urban commuting—sometimes known as Marchetti's constant, after Italian physicist Cesare Marchetti—has profound implications for how cities look, and, particularly, how sprawling or dense they can be.
If cities exist primarily as labor markets, and people are generally only willing to spend 30 minutes getting to work, the scale of an urban area's agglomeration effects is going to depend on (a) how many jobs your average city worker can reach within a half-hour's travel from his home and (b) how many employees can live within 30 minutes of your average city firm.
One can imagine two basic ways of adjusting for this reality: building up to accommodate more homes and firms within a given space, or speeding travel so that more destinations can be reached in a given amount of time.
Physical limits on both building and transportation technology meant that for the first few thousand years of their existence, cities tended to be pretty small, cramped places.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Not sure where your so-called gunfire district is but everywhere else there are decidedly more of your team, the anti-science moron club, who don’t wear masks and don’t believe the virus is real.. and according to your account, I guess some guy bought pit bulls to have them kill him, rather than die from a non-existent virus that will kill more than 500,000 people by summers end.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Actually, not true at all. Rural towns have become a boom thing for several parts of society: First, the wealthy (not uber rich but well off) often move there to get away from the problems of urban life. They don't want the high taxes, oppressive government, crime, noise, and whatever that comes with living in a city. They can commute or work remotely and do if they are still working. Retirees are another faction. These aren't the retired living on social security and food stamps, but rather those with big 401K's, IRA's, pensions, and investment income. They too don't want the hassle of urban living. The third group are those that lead what might be called "eclectic" lifestyles. That is people like artists and writers, entrepreneurs whose business doesn't require a specific location to function, that sort of thing.
Some of the wealthiest small towns in Arizona are now just like that, Jerome, Sedona, Carefree, Cave Creek, Bisbee, Oracle, or Prescott. They all have a large well off segment of the population and are located such that driving or flying into larger urban areas on occasion is easy to do.
So long as cities are unsafe, crime infested, deteriorating shitholes people that can leave will leave and they will go to rural areas to get away from all that.
Thomas Jefferson’s disdain for big cities and his agrarian vision for America was based partly on the danger of epidemics. He lived through a major one, yellow fever in 1793 that killed one in ten people in Philadelphia, then the nation’s capital.
Today, COVID-19 is helping drive many big city residents out, but the timeliness of considering Jefferson’s views about cities goes beyond the virus. Will today’s trend continue? Are Jefferson’s views about big cities now gaining acceptance?
It’s too early to say, but we are at least getting a better picture of the exodus to date.
An outfit called MyMove used a clever way to look at migration patterns since the start of the pandemic.
They compiled the number of change-of-address notices filed with the United States Post Office.
As you would expect, their study found that big cities are hemorrhaging residents.
Bigger cities would always have bigger numbers of people moving out, so, to correct for that, they compared this year’s change-of-address notices to last year’s.
Today, COVID-19 is helping drive many big city residents out, but the timeliness of considering Jefferson’s views about cities goes beyond the virus. Will today’s trend continue? Are Jefferson’s views about big cities now gaining acceptance?
It’s too early to say, but we are at least getting a better picture of the exodus to date.
An outfit called MyMove used a clever way to look at migration patterns since the start of the pandemic.
They compiled the number of change-of-address notices filed with the United States Post Office.
As you would expect, their study found that big cities are hemorrhaging residents.
Bigger cities would always have bigger numbers of people moving out, so, to correct for that, they compared this year’s change-of-address notices to last year’s.
- Chicago’s change-of-address notices more than doubled over last year’s for the period from February 1 to August 1;
- New York City’s are up 490%;
- San Francisco’s up 180%;
- Los Angeles’s up 96%;
- Washington D.C.’s up 160%;
- Houston’s up 60%;
- Philadelphia’s up 60%.
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
So, America is defined by shitholes?