Uneducated red rural white voters are very poor

Agriculture is about 2% of our economy, which is absolutely tiny. So of everything we produce, it is about 2% of it. That gives us a lot of other money to buy that 2% with.

Now you claim that the 20% of the population that are uneducated rural whites are supported by this 2% of the economy. That would make them noticeably poorer than Mexicans. My theory is these people have nothing to do with real agriculture, and just live where the land is cheap. If you are unproductive, you don't need to live in a productive area. You can live on whatever marginal land you can find for cheap.

Lets take Appalachia as an example. The Alt Right is asking us to believe that without Appalachia, NYC would starve. What food comes from Appalachia? They grow a bit of agriculture, but not much. Not great area for agriculture, mountainous. It does have cheap land.

How much food does NYC grow?
 
How much food does NYC grow?

The world is full of poverty stricken farmers desperate to sell to NYC, so NYC does not need to grow any. It would be a waste of NYC's time and resources to grow food.

It is like asking how much food does Bezos grow.
 
The world is full of poverty stricken farmers desperate to sell to NYC, so NYC does not need to grow any. It would be a waste of NYC's time and resources to grow food.

It is like asking how much food does Bezos grow.

Salty is a SWiL aka Smug White Liberal.
 
The world is full of poverty stricken farmers desperate to sell to NYC, so NYC does not need to grow any. It would be a waste of NYC's time and resources to grow food.

It is like asking how much food does Bezos grow.

Nope. You are wrong. If you city libs start taking the rights away from those farmers, see how quickly your food sources dry up. Your pathetic insults are starting to piss them off already.

What does Bezos have to do with farming and food production?
 
If you city libs start taking the rights away from those farmers, see how quickly your food sources dry up. Your pathetic insults are starting to piss them off already.

I know your sense of entitlement makes you think that you have the right to money, and that because you live on cheap land you are a farmer. Neither is true. Farmers around the world are desperate to sell food, and they are not going to care if you are pissed off.
 
I know your sense of entitlement makes you think that you have the right to money, and that because you live on cheap land you are a farmer. Neither is true. Farmers around the world are desperate to sell food, and they are not going to care if you are pissed off.

Sense of entitlement? Entitled to what? Cheap land? Hell, I'd love to buy a few hundred acres, land isn't as cheap as you think.
Farmers here don't give a shit if you city trash starve. Neither do the rest of us rural folk. Don't ever forget that.
 
Sense of entitlement? Entitled to what? Cheap land? Hell, I'd love to buy a few hundred acres, land isn't as cheap as you think.
Farmers here don't give a shit if you city trash starve. Neither do the rest of us rural folk. Don't ever forget that.

"Yes", I am "sure" land around where you live costs far more than land in Manhattan. I mean land in Manhattan "only" costs in the range of $100 million to $1 billion an acre.

Now back in the real world, farmers in your area need customers. If they do not sell their produce, they will lose their farms very quickly. If they stop selling to NYC, NYC buys from somewhere else, and people in your area starve to death. Welcome to the real world.

I know this is all harsh, but it is the real world.
 
I know this is all harsh, but it is the real world.

When people get desperate, they get a lot less generous. I am sure that in good times, farmers have been very charitable with RB, but when it is either their family starving to death or RB, they will protect their family. Then in becomes who can provide the most money(resources) to buy food. NYC is the place through all the resources of the world flow. Literally, it is the financial center for almost all trade. RB is too poor to buy a few acres of very cheap land. RB is "retired early", because there is no job for RB.

There is a reason that cities almost never starve. Almost all the starvation happens in rural areas. The only exceptions are when war cuts off trade. NYC has one of the greatest ports in the world, and a population that can repel any sad Alt Right attempt to attack it.
 
"Yes", I am "sure" land around where you live costs far more than land in Manhattan. I mean land in Manhattan "only" costs in the range of $100 million to $1 billion an acre.

Now back in the real world, farmers in your area need customers. If they do not sell their produce, they will lose their farms very quickly. If they stop selling to NYC, NYC buys from somewhere else, and people in your area starve to death. Welcome to the real world.

I know this is all harsh, but it is the real world.

I didn't compare land prices between rural and city areas. Nor did I compare income levels.

Face the facts, we farmers couldn't care less about you city scum. We will always survive
because we have the resources. Maybe it's you who should wake up to the "real world."

Where will you buy from if American farmers don't sell to you? China? Maybe you can buy
another China virus, this one seems to give you leftists a political "lift" toward socialism.
 
Face the facts, we farmers couldn't care less about you city scum.

Farmers are usually financially desperate. A lot of things can and do go wrong. Financially desperate people care a lot about their customers.

We will always survive because we have the resources. Maybe it's you who should wake up to the "real world."

Clearly, you are NOT a farmer. Farmers do not have all the resources. Your fantasies about making bullets out of blocks of lead, are just fantasies. You clearly have no idea how to produce anything.

Farmers need resources such as fuel, fertilizer, machinery, pesticides, etc. They buy these with money. They get that money by selling to places like NYC. Then they use the money stored in NYC to buy resources from around the world through NYC.

Where will you buy from if American farmers don't sell to you? China? Maybe you can buy another China virus, this one seems to give you leftists a political "lift" toward socialism.

Australia, Brazil... Actually, I do not have all the time to list all the countries of the world. World trade continues, so if viruses are spreading by world trade, then we are going to get it.
 
I didn't compare land prices between rural and city areas. Nor did I compare income levels.

I am. Lets say land prices around you are $4k an acre, and in Manhattan it is $400 million. Both you and someone in NYC has to sell an acre to try to buy food. They will bid $400 million for a ton of corn, and you will bid $4k for a ton of corn. I wonder who will get that ton of corn?

You are sure that farmers will give you food out of charity. When times are good, you may well be right. When people get desperate... Well, then farmers need to look after their own families, and not give you charity.
 
When people get desperate, they get a lot less generous. I am sure that in good times, farmers have been very charitable with RB, but when it is either their family starving to death or RB, they will protect their family. Then in becomes who can provide the most money(resources) to buy food. NYC is the place through all the resources of the world flow. Literally, it is the financial center for almost all trade. RB is too poor to buy a few acres of very cheap land. RB is "retired early", because there is no job for RB.

There is a reason that cities almost never starve. Almost all the starvation happens in rural areas. The only exceptions are when war cuts off trade. NYC has one of the greatest ports in the world, and a population that can repel any sad Alt Right attempt to attack it.

You have no idea how "close knit" we rural folk are. We take care of ourselves with the best we produce, then sell what's left to you city scum. It will always be that way.

Yep, money flows through your NYC (and other big cities), but when money is worthless and food isn't, see how much comes your way. Especially if you keep insulting us.
I retired early because I could. I've had many job offers since, some rather tempting, but I am comfortable.

Like I said, we'll never starve because we have ALL the resources compared to you city dwellers.
We will not need to attack the cities if it comes to that, we'll just cut off your supplies and watch you turn into cannibals.
 
I am. Lets say land prices around you are $4k an acre, and in Manhattan it is $400 million. Both you and someone in NYC has to sell an acre to try to buy food. They will bid $400 million for a ton of corn, and you will bid $4k for a ton of corn. I wonder who will get that ton of corn?

You are sure that farmers will give you food out of charity. When times are good, you may well be right. When people get desperate... Well, then farmers need to look after their own families, and not give you charity.

When money becomes worthless, you will starve. That is a fact. We won't. That is also a fact.
 
When money becomes worthless, you will starve. That is a fact. We won't. That is also a fact.

When money becomes worthless, another money will become worth something. We have had money since it was invented. Every crazy attempt to get rid of it has failed. It is irreplaceable.

But again, why would we give you any of the new money? You do not produce anything. You are worthless.
 
You have no idea how "close knit" we rural folk are.

When they have a choice between keeping their farms and being charitable to you... They will pick keeping their farms. But honestly, if they can keep selling their produce, they might not have to make that choice. You better hope they keep selling their produce to cities.

Yep, money flows through your NYC (and other big cities)

I don't think you understand how money works. Money flows through NYC, PERIOD!!! Any money leaving or entering the USA, any money moving around the country, almost all the money in the world, flows through NYC. Other big cities service NYC.

but when money is worthless and food isn't, see how much comes your way.

When money is worthless, farmers can not buy the inputs they need to produce food. And they starve. See how that works. Don't believe me, look at North Korea. Their money is almost worthless, and their farmers are starving.

Especially if you keep insulting us.

If I keep insulting you, farmers will kill their own families to get revenge? That does not make sense. If I keep insulting you, farmers will desperately try to sell their produce to try to keep their farms. If I complement you, farmers will desperately try to sell their produce to try to keep their farms. If I ignore you, farmers will desperately try to sell their produce to try to keep their farms.

Do you notice a pattern?

I retired early because I could.

You claim to want to buy some cheap land, and be too poor to do so.

Like I said, we'll never starve because we have ALL the resources compared to you city dwellers. We will not need to attack the cities if it comes to that, we'll just cut off your supplies and watch you turn into cannibals.

98% of production is everything but agriculture. Agriculture needs a lot of those resources to keep producing. Or put another way, the rest of the USA has 98% of the production of the USA to buy food from the rest of the world. The rest of the world is full of farmers desperate to get a good deal like American farmers have.

Do you know what African Farmers could do with the fertilizers, machinery, pesticides, etc that American farmers get? Australian farmers are hit hard by having to compete with the heavy subsidies that American farmers get from our cities. They would be overjoyed if our cities cutoff American farmers and started buying from them at market prices.
 
When money becomes worthless, you will starve. That is a fact. We won't. That is also a fact.

The reason we have money is because we produce things that people want to buy. We are productive. The reason you make no money is that you are not productive. You claim you have money saved away, but if money becomes worthless, that money is gone. Meanwhile, I will be earning the new money.
 
It is amazing to see RB, and the other babies burst into tears when it is pointed out that if they destroy the US, we will stop subsidizing them.
 
Farmers are usually financially desperate. A lot of things can and do go wrong. Financially desperate people care a lot about their customers.



Clearly, you are NOT a farmer. Farmers do not have all the resources. Your fantasies about making bullets out of blocks of lead, are just fantasies. You clearly have no idea how to produce anything.

Farmers need resources such as fuel, fertilizer, machinery, pesticides, etc. They buy these with money. They get that money by selling to places like NYC. Then they use the money stored in NYC to buy resources from around the world through NYC.



Australia, Brazil... Actually, I do not have all the time to list all the countries of the world. World trade continues, so if viruses are spreading by world trade, then we are going to get it.

You know little of farmers and rural folk. You never will. We will always survive. That is a fact.

Fantasy? I do make bullets out of blocks of lead. I have well over 200 lbs. of lead, along with wheel weights to harden it. I have a melting pot and molds for a number of calibers.
Do you think fuel, machinery, pesticides etc are only produced in the cities? Really? NYC means nothing to us. Nothing at all.

You think you can rely on other countries to feed you, you're in for a big surprise. They give less of a fuck about you than we do, and we really couldn't care less about you.
 
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You're truly an smug arrogant fucker, Salty. Typical Smug White Liberal.

People have been moving from small towns to big cities in droves literally for at least a century. The only ones left in the small towns are the ones that couldn't figure out how to move in other words the idiots
 
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