What do Nazi and Confederate Flags have to do with ending the lockdown?

FreeSpeech said:
Meh it took a two second Google search, maybe now you'll stop with your lies, but I doubt it:

42 U.S. Code § 271.Penalties for violation of quarantine laws
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(a)Penalties for persons violating quarantine laws
Any person who violates any regulation prescribed under sections 264 to 266 of this title, or any provision of section 269 of this title or any regulation prescribed thereunder, or who enters or departs from the limits of any quarantine station, ground, or anchorage in disregard of quarantine rules and regulations or without permission of the quarantine officer in charge, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $1,000 or by imprisonment for not more than one year, or both."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/271
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Still no evidence that there actually was any 14 day quarantine. All you've got is a fake news story. IOW, nothing but lies.

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StoneByStone said:
He'd still have had more than enough influence to prevent the amendment from passing.
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Disagreed. The fact the Republican Party has hollowed itself out and become the Party of Trump has nothing to do with the way the Constitution is structured. The Constitution is fine, the way the Executive and Legislative branches are using it is not. For the most part, Congress has been derelict in their duties for the majority of this century. They're more worried about reelection and campaign donations than doing their sworn duty.
 
Walt said:
The Democratic Socialists were (and are) a major party in Germany. They were the mainstream opposition of the Nazis, and the SA(Brown Shirts) were organized to attack both them and Communists. They were the enemies and not "akin" to the Democratic Socialists. They did not consider themselves civilians, and clearly gave themselves military ranks, structure, and uniforms.

The pre-WWII KKK was not heavily southern, so was not heavily Democratic. The most successful KKK leader from 1915 to 1941 was DC Stephenson, who nearly became the REPUBLICAN governor of Indiana. His involvement in rape and murder ended his career.

The KKK in general opposed FDR, and FDR certainly opposed the KKK.



Modern unions were created in England before socialism(1799 or so), and before there was social pressures from minorities. They were created by burgeoning factory workers class to get some level of rights in a society that did not offer them much. It would be more honest to say unions created socialism than that socialism created unions. There was no barring of minorities at the time.



Not even close. They are closely matched to the anarchists in Germany, but those were so rare by the 1920's that I doubt the SA even troubled with them.
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BigBitch is the usual delusional rightie.

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LV426 said:
I think I know why...

They live vicariously through him because they're in a cult of personality. Any criticism of Trump they take personally as criticism of themselves. So they have to defend him at all costs because they are, in effect, defending themselves.

Trump being a fraud means they bought into the fraud, and they can't admit to that because it would mean they're not as smart as they want you to think.
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Anyone who supports Trump is anything but smart. Very gullible.

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rjhenn said:
IOW you've got no evidence that the 14 day quarantine was ever actually implemented. And it's only your paranoia that sees NPR as "a far left MSM source".

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It appears the first batch of people returning were under federal quarantine but when even more people returned, it was home quarantine with feds checking on them. It may only be government workers who were under Federal quarantine. Don't forget those who were held aboard the Cesspools of the Sea; cruise ships.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...e-plans-for-returning-travelers-idUSKBN1ZX2F6
"CDC is working with the states to determine where travelers will be quarantined,” Messonnier said.

Flights with U.S. government employees being evacuated by the State department will go to military bases. They will be under federal quarantine for 14 days from when they left Wuhan.


https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...elf-quarantine-after-returning-china-n1138731
The voluntary self-quarantine is different from the mandatory federal quarantine imposed on Americans and family members who were evacuated from China's Hubei province or the Diamond Princess cruise ship.

Rather, it applies to U.S. citizens returning from other parts of China. Upon their return, the travelers are screened at the airport for any symptoms of the illness, and if they have none, they are allowed to finish their journeys home. Travelers are also asked to provide contact information, which is passed along to local or state health departments for follow-up.

"We're asking everyone who has been in China in the last 14 days to stay home and monitor themselves for symptoms during that 14-day period," a spokesperson from the Texas Department of State Health Services said in an email.



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rjhenn said:
Anyone who supports Trump is anything but smart. Very gullible.

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Agreed, but I also understand there is a line between those who will/did vote for Trump over the Democratic nominee and those who think Trump is "the Chosen One".



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FreeSpeech said:
Bullshit, there is no threat implied by one exercising their inalienable right of self defense to safeguard their inalienable rights of freedom of assembly and speech.
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Waving guns around is an explicit threat. Simply having a gun in a holster or slung over your shoulder is not a threat.

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Into the Night said:
Quite right. No State makes brandishing a gun, even in the commission of a crime, a capital offense.


SCOTUS cannot apply the 1st amendment to this case. The 1st amendment applies only to the federal government, as specified in the 1st amendment itself. They CAN apply it to the Ohio State Constitution, however, and read the same conclusion (See $11) of the Constitution of the State of Ohio).

Thus, their reasoning was faulty, but they did reach a valid conclusion nevertheless.
The same conclusion would apply for those speaking out against the U.S. government, where the 1st amendment would apply.
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The first amendment along with much of the Bill of Rights has been made applicable to the states through the due process and equal protections clauses of the 14th amendment through a judicial theory known as incorporation, in the case of the 1st Amendment this would be superfluous anyways as every state in the Union has a Constitution guaranteeing the freedom of speech, assembly, etc. but here's a primer on the incorporation doctrine anyways it's a must know in order to understand how the dynamics of the Federal and State relationship changed dramatically following the civil war:

Incorporation Doctrine
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The incorporation doctrine is a constitutional doctrine through which the first ten amendments of the United States Constitution (known as the Bill of Rights) are made applicable to the states through the Due Process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Incorporation applies both substantively and procedurally. Prior to the doctrine's (and the Fourteenth Amendment's) existence, the Bill of Rights applied only to the Federal Government and to federal court cases. States and state courts could choose to adopt similar laws, but were under no obligation to do so.

After the passage of the Fourteenth Amendment, the Supreme Court favored a process called “selective incorporation.” Under selective incorporation, the Supreme Court would incorporate certain parts of certain amendments, rather than incorporating an entire amendment at once.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/incorporation_doctrine
 
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WitoldPilecki said:
One could say similar about Soviets, Islamists, the British Empire, the Neocons, and a bunch of others too.

But, it's terrorism to kill people for their beliefs.
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Is it terrorism to kill people because they are a threat?

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WitoldPilecki said:
Oh please, I'm of a Polish Catholic background.

Nazis targeted Polish Catholics too.

The first victims of Auschwitz were Polish Catholic POW's.

Nazis most certainly killed Polish Catholics in the camps too, most notably the Polish Catholic clergy member Max Kolbe.

Nazis also killed Polish Catholics in Operation Tannenberg, the Wola Massacre, the Ponary Massacre, Operation ntelligenzaktion, AKtion AB.

They enslaved millions of Polish Catholics, including Polish Catholic children in HeuAktion.

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What privilege do Polish Catholics have?

To be called dumb Polaks, because of Jews like George Schlatter's Laugh In & Norman Lear's All in the Family?

Or to be called Nazi collaborators by Jewish media?

Besides, Stormfront is filled with Neo-Nazis who are anti-Polish too.

Especially British ethnics & to a lesser extent Germans there hate Poles.
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You were called dumb Polaks long before there was television.

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Walt said:
Just testing for influenza would have done nothing. They needed to test for a specific strain, Swine Flu. It is the same with Covid-19, they needed the specific strain, not just any Coronavirus. Both involve tests for specific RNA's, which have to be developed quickly
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You don't have a clue what you're talking about not only did the standard flu test work but so did the standard flu vaccine. They only had to change the code for the machines running the tests not mass produce the test kits from scratch:

Device manufacturer DxNA requested emergency approval for the swine flu test that runs on its GeneSTAT platform in May after reworking the detection system to find H1N1 instead of H5 avian flu. (See Mobile H1N1 Test May Offer Fast, Accurate Flu Detection)

DxNA is based in St. George, Utah.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/uritheflu/17533

Furthermore; the swine flu was already a well known disease:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_influenza#1988_U.S._outbreak
 
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WitoldPilecki said:
There's tons of threats to America, not just Neo-Nazis, or the KKK, but also MS 13, Al Qaeda, ISIS, ANTIFA, Black Lives Matters, Mexican Cartels, the Mexican Mafia, the Bloods & Crips, the Latin Kings, The Jewish Defense League, the Albanian Mob, the Chinese gangs, the Italian Mob, the Russian Mafia too which worse member in the USA was Jew Ludwig Fainberg.
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There's a fair amount of ignorance and paranoia there. ANTIFA, BLM and the JDL aren't threats to America. Most of the others are criminal threats, not significant national threats.

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rjhenn said:
There's a fair amount of ignorance and paranoia there. ANTIFA, BLM and the JDL aren't threats to America. Most of the others are criminal threats, not significant national threats.

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Neo-Nazis are not much more or less of a threat than any of the others.
 
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